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| leph555 |
| So sad but yet so true. |
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| WittyHandle |
Didn't work, this American still isn't interested in soccer.
or any other sport for that matter. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranceporter99
Very true. I love watching the Prem because there is so little going on, yet so much going on. A lot of people in the US (at least a lot I know) have been watching the WC because the USA has been doing so well (and is that good) that don't normally watch soccer/football. Or any at all really. I have been asking them what they think and they usually reply "oh its boring" or "theres not enough scoring." When I point out to them the flow of play and all the other things that people look for or appreciate when they watch soccer, they start to like it. Its a microcosm for how people can just change their mental process a little bit, and see something in a completely new and exciting way. Its actually quite encouraging for someone who is usually pessimistic about humanity. |
I can see the excitement and entertainment when you are drunk and in a huge stadium with a lot of other drunk loud people, but watching at home on the television is a bit banal.
I played soccer for 6-7 years, I know most of the strategy and the little things, but to be honest, unless you are playing it then its really hard to take it all in.
Americans I think like intensity and tension of the major sports here. Baseball and Football (Pigskin) have both of those in spades. Baseball is the master sport of anticipation, no time limit, no ties, its batter vs. pitcher. Football has the strategy and the use of the clock as a integral part of the game.
I don't know, I liked playing soccer, its a fun game, and its good for little kids cause its easy to pick up and its not so violent, but eh, baseball has so much more going on in terms of suspense and strategy. |
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| Renzo |
:stongue: :stongue:
This is awesome on so many levels. |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
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Firstly, football(real football) isn't hard to take in at all, but I do understand the "boring" argument. I get it, people want to see goals and points and have a winner etc and a game ending 0-0 is pretty lame. To say that there's no tension is ridiculous. What's more tense than waiting 90+ mins to see a winner and coming up 0-0 lol.
Baseball is boring as ing sin, right up there with golf. 4 hours of sitting around staring at a tv while announcers with the most monotone voices in the galaxy talk about completely irrelevant ; like when the last time a grand slam happened in a single inning, EXCITING! And I don't know how you can call American football interesting at all, the games last a bit over 2 hours with maybe a solid 20-30 minutes of play and 1.5 hours of time outs and commercials. Edge of my seat here. |
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| Renzo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
I can see the excitement and entertainment when you are drunk and in a huge stadium with a lot of other drunk loud people, but watching at home on the television is a bit banal. I played soccer for 6-7 years, I know most of the strategy and the little things, but to be honest, unless you are playing it then its really hard to take it all in.
Americans I think like intensity and tension of the major sports here. Baseball and Football (Pigskin) have both of those in spades. Baseball is the master sport of anticipation, no time limit, no ties, its batter vs. pitcher. Football has the strategy and the use of the clock as a integral part of the game. I don't know, I liked playing soccer, its a fun game, and its good for little kids cause its easy to pick up and its not so violent, but eh, baseball has so much more going on in terms of suspense and strategy. |
The reason you don't feel tension is because you either didn't grow up with a love for the sport [and I mean love, not playing for a few years with your friends] or you have absolutely zero emotion invested in the result of the game. You couldn't give three s whether the United States wins or loses, let's be real. How do you think the Argentines, for example, feel when they lose at the World Cup? Whether they are at the stadium or not. Football is not merely another sport for the Argentines, the Brazilians, the Brits, etc. It's a way of life. Why don't people get this? |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
....:wtf:
Firstly, football(real football) isn't hard to take in at all, but I do understand the "boring" argument. I get it, people want to see goals and points and have a winner etc and a game ending 0-0 is pretty lame. To say that there's no tension is ridiculous. What's more tense than waiting 90+ mins to see a winner and coming up 0-0 lol. |
Watching paint dry, and wondering if you might get an air bubble or two? :conf: I don't mean hard to take in, its really easy to take in, I mean though to appreciate the parts that make it more than kicking the ball around a big field with very little scoring is hard to take in.
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
Baseball is boring as ing sin, right up there with golf. 4 hours of sitting around staring at a tv while announcers with the most monotone voices in the galaxy talk about completely irrelevant ; like when the last time a grand slam happened in a single inning, EXCITING! And I don't know how you can call American football interesting at all, the games last a bit over 2 hours with maybe a solid 20-30 minutes of play and 1.5 hours of time outs and commercials. Edge of my seat here. |
The thing about baseball and american football is that it is all in a very clear cut tournament style. There is usually two leagues, with multiple divsions based on timezone (usually) and each league plays within the division to find the best in the league to play the other league. It is a very simple concept.
Also baseball isn't supposed to be the same excting as soccer or football. The game is a working mans game. They play almost every single day, they have one extended break for the mid-summer classic and that is it. Its all about the day to day routine, the numbers, the improvments, slumps, etc. It is a game of numbers and averages. It is great for people who like to do the statistics. It is very measurable and that is the best part of it. Plus there is so much history and tie ins to what made America, its a real blue collar sport that almost anyone can play, tall, short, big, skinny, its great.
It really shows though how little an attention span has anymore, Baseball used to kill the ratings, everyone loved it, heck I can remember when it was the most popular sport by far and I am only 24. It is really sad that Americans have to go down to the level where they can not pay attention to even a game of baseball anymore. Incredibly sad.
I think that is the global appeal of soccer, and I try not to mean this in a way that just sounds like a troll, but the game is pretty brain dead simple to follow along. Its a bunch of guys running around kicking a ball, unless you know the minute (and I mean MINUTE) details it appears as nothing really "amazing" is happening. Its just people running around kicking a ball back and forth. I think thats why it appeals so well, it transends barriers of intelligence or attention and is a dead simple thing to follow. Plus in Europe it obviously is an allegorical alternative to nationalism that lead to the deaths of millions of your country men, so I guess it has its draw there... Why take up arms when you can have guys run around on a soccer field instead representing your country? |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renzo
The reason you don't feel tension is because you either didn't grow up with a love for the sport [and I mean love, not playing for a few years with your friends] or you have absolutely zero emotion invested in the result of the game. You couldn't give three s whether the United States wins or loses, let's be real. How do you think the Argentines, for example, feel when they lose at the World Cup? Whether they are at the stadium or not. Football is not merely another sport for the Argentines, the Brazilians, the Brits, etc. It's a way of life. Why don't people get this? |
Because we don't invest our entire emotional intensities into one thing? Thats probably a good thing by the way.
Also if you think we lack emotion about our sports teams in the US that is just not true. We are a huge country, frankly its a lot to ask to not only care about your city, regional, and division rivalries, but then to throw on international ones as well? We just do not care... |
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| Renzo |
What? I said you, yourself, have zero emotion in the result of these World Cup games.
Nou, I'm probably one of the most qualified persons to speak on the matter. I was born in South America, a continent with a passion for football, but raised in the States. , I'm fairly confident I know more about baseball than you do. But that's not the point. All I'm saying is people who call watching footy boring were never emotionally invested in the sport to begin with. |
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| bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
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Hey I agree. That's the one thing I love about football, I can just sit there and zone out; even missing some matches isn't that big of a deal if I can catch the highlights and results. I think that's the beauty of it, and big reason as to why it's called the beautiful game. Everyone can watch and enjoy, regardless of how much money your team/country/whatever has, everyone has an opportunity to be a part of it. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
I also forgot in the US not only do we have the professional leagues we also have the college play and in Baseball we have like 3 levels of farm teams as well.
Also in a lot of really small towns they are huge on High School level sports.
To say we aren't passionate about sports is about as clueless as you can get, if anything we are more passionate about them then Europeans, we just happen to like a whole load more of them. We have Football, college and professional in the fall, with basketball (college and professional) starting up as well. Football lasts till February, Basketball lasts still heck, June. Baseball gears up in the spring and that lasts all through summer, back to fall. |
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| Schadenfreude |
baseball? really?
talk about being right up there with curling in terms of boring. |
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