Tiesto has been caught playing pre-mixed sets? Like Keoki? When did this happen?
Yes, here's a clip of it :D
Yookeroo
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In its claims for damages, Insomniac cited more than a dozen recent deaths at or after major music or sporting events, including that of a 27-year-old man who died after being punched at a Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim game,
Amen. Good for Insomniac for pursuing this.
Clovis
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Originally posted by Apeattack
How much do top basketball players get paid for "designing" and/or putting their name on a shoe? Lesser basketball players perhaps could have designed a better shoe, but it is all about name recognition. As other people have said in this thread and every other Tiesto-bashing thread, it's all about supply and demand. Never forget that money is a man-made construct. No action is 'worth' anything in absolute terms, it is only worth what we are willing to pay for it.
Basketball players and a lot of athletes in general get paid ridiculous amounts, but someone like Kobe or Tiger Woods IS actually legitimately talented. Basketball players do a lot more work than Tiesto does. He barely even makes his own music. All he has to do is be Tiesto and show up. He's clearly good at something though, and that is making as much money as humanly possible from sitting in front of people and playing back the same pre recorded music for a few hours every couple nights.
msilin
Seriously, Tiesto has about 10 years of solid production behind him. Hate him or not, to many people he IS the kobe of dance music - one of the first DJs to do his own stadium tour, one of the first DJs to break through into the main stream with his music, the list goes on.
The guy charges that much not to play CDs. Just like everytime you see your favorite rock band they aren't expected to play their best improvised guitar and drum solos, Tiesto isn't expected to do something mindblowing. But he is expected to play a good set, some Tiesto classics, have good visuals, etc. And he does.
And yeah, people will pay to see that. I don't see why it's pissing everyone off so much. If it was so easy to mix CDs on stage, why isn't everyone up there right now skimming 250k off of "suckers"? There's gotta be a reason he can charge that much, and I refuse to believe it's solely because people are idiots and pay money to see him just beatmatch some CDs. That's ridiculous.
element-y
^ I guess what we are saying is people's own opinions are dumb hahaha.
Nah I actually agree with you. Dont see what the deal is. People need to think of it in terms of a business - not just a random number.
Quazar
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Originally posted by msilin
msilin's post
Good post.
When people were talking about playing pre-mixed CDs, I thought they were saying he literally puts in a mix CD with an hour and a half-long set on it, and lets it play while pretending to mix on stage.
If he's actually beatmatching and moving the slider, then he's DJing. I mean honestly, the main reason we like certain DJs is their taste in music and the way the move from song to song seamlessly. Tiesto is excellent at that, and he (usually) has fantastic taste in music.
omega1n
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Originally posted by Quazar the main reason we like certain DJs is their taste in music and the way the move from song to song seamlessly. Tiesto is excellent at that, and he (usually) has fantastic taste in music.
Lol, I didn't know double beating constantly was considered seamlessly.
trancension
Tiesto is the only big name DJ I've seen train wreck on two separate nights. I'm sure you or other people have seen other big name DJs train wreck multiple times, but for me, Tiesto is the only one who's considered a big name DJ who's train wrecked on two different nights. So no, you aren't guaranteed a good night with flawless transitions, and you definitely aren't guaranteed a night of great track selection.
$250,000 for Sandscat baby.
DJ RANN
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Originally posted by msilin
Seriously, Tiesto has about 10 years of solid production behind him. Hate him or not, to many people he IS the kobe of dance music - one of the first DJs to do his own stadium tour, one of the first DJs to break through into the main stream with his music, the list goes on.
The guy charges that much not to play CDs. Just like everytime you see your favorite rock band they aren't expected to play their best improvised guitar and drum solos, Tiesto isn't expected to do something mindblowing. But he is expected to play a good set, some Tiesto classics, have good visuals, etc. And he does.
And yeah, people will pay to see that. I don't see why it's pissing everyone off so much. If it was so easy to mix CDs on stage, why isn't everyone up there right now skimming 250k off of "suckers"? There's gotta be a reason he can charge that much, and I refuse to believe it's solely because people are idiots and pay money to see him just beatmatch some CDs. That's ridiculous.
Bull. That "10 years of solid production behind" him was the work of ghost producers and engineers. It's really funny that you say 10 years of good production as well, because anyone that knows his work will tell you that's whne he sold out.
The difference is that Kobe is undeniably talented - I don't even like the guy or the sport that tbh, but you can't deny that he delivers and is damn talented and at the top of his game skill wise in comparison to his current peers in the sport and those that went before him.
It's far more appropriate to liken Tiesto to David Beckham, who is unbelieveably famous but not even in the top 100 players in terms of talent or skill and has achieved nothing (in real terms) apart from forwarding his own wealth and fame. In many ways Beckham is everything that is wrong with football, in exactly the same way that Tiesto is everything that is wrong with dance Music.
There are so many DJ's who have so much more skill, talent and taste than him but he just has serious management and clever branding behind him.
Seriously, just listen to his tracks from the mid to late 90's and compare them to everything after - a concious effort was made to dumb down and cash in on the music. You can literally hear it.
His "music" (I feel like I should wash my mouth out after saying that) these days is nothing more than cheese for kids who don't know any better or other forms of music, even EDM.
As a former DJ and Producer, and currently a studio engineer I hate what he has done to the scene and the music - especially what people think EDM is just because of the music he plays. Aside from Guetta, I can't really think of anyone that has sold out that badly.
Quazar
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Originally posted by omega1n
Lol, I didn't know double beating constantly was considered seamlessly.
I haven't seen him live since his Elements of Life tour, and I thought he was good then. :/
I can only speak from experience. Every time I've seen him live he's been great, and all of his mix albums (up until now) have been awesome, too. The only thing I've never cared for are his productions (except for the Allure stuff).
EDIT: I will say, though, that the last of his albums that truly blew me away was In Search of Sunrise 4: Latin America, and that was a while back.
72hrpartyanimal
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Originally posted by omega1n
Lol, I didn't know double beating constantly was considered seamlessly.
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I aint gonna lie. I wish someone paid me $250,000 for ting in public
element-y
Hahaha Sergio awesome - and yea I have seen this happen. Will not see him again no matter what production it is based from experiences.
However guys, are all his classic tracks shadow producers? I know many of the ones I favor like Elements of Life are indeed so, but what about classics like Sparkles and such - way back when. I mean was he a businessman form the get go or did he start up his success by producing and then used that money to help him out?
And dont single him out also as the only producer who uses shadows. I can name so many.
