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No wonder all tracks sound the same nowadays... (pg. 10)
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by BeatsAndBeyond
This is like saying every trance track that uses the same arpeggio pattern sounds the same. |
Fixed that for you.
| quote: | Originally posted by BeatsAndBeyond
You could create a similar video using any type of music and any type of pattern, so I don't see what the fuss is about. |
Of course you don't. |
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| osterzone |
| quote: | Originally posted by BeatsAndBeyond
This is like saying every trance track that uses an arpeggio pattern sounds the same.
You could create a similar video using any type of music and any type of pattern, so I don't see what the fuss is about. |
I already mentioned this earlier.
If you wrote out the melodies of all the songs in that video, they're 100% different. It's just that it's a two-note pattern that's being repeated. The stuff focused on in the video is not a melody. Case closed...and that's a fact...write it out on a sheet of paper for the proof.
But in classic TA fashion, the trolls feel threatened about their stupidity, so they pull out webster dictionary references and other garbage to shield themselves :haha: |
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| Vernon Wanderer |
| quote: | Originally posted by osterzone
I already mentioned this earlier.
If you wrote out the melodies of all the songs in that video, they're 100% different. It's just that it's a two-note pattern that's being repeated. The stuff focused on in the video is not a melody. Case closed...and that's a fact...write it out on a sheet of paper for the proof.
But in classic TA fashion, the trolls feel threatened about their stupidity, so they pull out webster dictionary references and other garbage to shield themselves :haha: |
What genres do you listen to? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by osterzone
If you wrote out the melodies of all the songs in that video, they're 100% different. |
Please do. |
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| osterzone |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Please do. |
They are.
I'm talking about the progression of these two-note patterns.
If they were truly similar, you would have every track using the exact same melody with the exact same pitch. They wouldn't look any different on sheet music this way.
You guys complain about how they sound the same, but they're actually not the same. |
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| Vernon Wanderer |
| Ok, but why are so many producers using the very same PATTERNS? That's the question. Those tracks just don't have enough identity in my opinion.. I'm not trolling, I do like some new trance tracks, but my taste which is fed up with same all the time is preventing me from enjoying most releases. |
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| osterzone |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vernon Wanderer
Ok, but why are so many producers using the very same PATTERNS? That's the question. Those tracks just don't have enough identity in my opinion.. I'm not trolling, I do like some new trance tracks, but my taste which is fed up with same all the time is preventing me from enjoying most releases. |
They use the same patterns because they're catchy on the ear and sound good.
Temple One is a producer that has built his entire career from this pattern. Every one of his songs has that high-low thing going on with it. You know it's a track by him when you hear that nowadays. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by osterzone
They are.
I'm talking about the progression of these two-note patterns. |
Please write out those different melodies to show me that they are 100% different. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by osterzone
You guys complain about how they sound the same, but they're actually not the same. |
Sounding the same and being the same are two different things.
Even the title of the video does not claim the melodies to be the same, but similar. |
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| osterzone |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Please write out those different melodies to show me that they are 100% different. |
I don't need to...listen to them yourself. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by osterzone
I don't need to...listen to them yourself. |
I do not have relative pitch, I cannot tell you what a note is by hearing it in a melody. So I want you to provide this proof:
| quote: | | Case closed...and that's a fact...write it out on a sheet of paper for the proof. |
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| pozz |
| quote: | Originally posted by osterzone
They are.
I'm talking about the progression of these two-note patterns.
If they were truly similar, you would have every track using the exact same melody with the exact same pitch. They wouldn't look any different on sheet music this way.
You guys complain about how they sound the same, but they're actually not the same. |
in Western music theory, there is something called "shape". it refers to how a piece of music develops over time. these tracks all have the same shape. sometimes even matching each other second for second.
on a sheet of music these would look even more similar than just listening. why? because all the little melodies surrounding the main melodic theme would look like they are supporting it -- like they are built around it. this is called "variations on a theme" a term which i'm sure you have heard before. all these tracks are "variations on a theme".
and this isnt saying the same thing as "trance has the same kick-hihat-clap-hihat percussion for ever song". the same fooking central theme around which the songs are built is used in these 50 fooking tracks. |
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