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No wonder all tracks sound the same nowadays... (pg. 13)
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| Goebbel Goebbel |
| quote: | Originally posted by jetflagTA
Is easy. If many people listen to something it means that thing is good. |
you like britney spears too? trance isn't enough? |
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| pozz |
| quote: | Originally posted by osterzone
Yeah I did...and you basically agree with my point in your post. All you said was how the melodies may look similar on paper. You never proved how they're not the same melody (which is an impossible argument to make). |
yo homie. let's put into different terms.
you've moved from calling those melodies "two note patterns" 100 posts ago to admitting that they are melodies. the next step is to see how blatantly similar they are. that's the entire point. these are so similar, there shape is so set, the progression and development from one point to another so linear, that ON PAPER, where you can keep track of how they develop over time, they will look fundamentally the same, with slight deviations.
do you know what "transposition" in music means? its when you take a certain progression, like a melody, and then move it up or down a given scale. the "melody" will be the same, but "transposed" upwards or downwards. the pitches will be different, but the melody is the same.
"pitch" in music is relative. melody describes only the shape of a pattern of notes, not the notes themselves, aka not pitch.
even if the surrounding harmonies or accompanying melodies are different in each of these songs, they all have the same shape maybe transposed to the background harmont, maybe in the forefront with the melody, maybe switching keys midstream, and other variations. but they revolve around a central progression that's highlighted in the video. |
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| pozz |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You do realise there are not 50 musical keys? I'm pretty sure there aren't even 50 unique scales. [/b]
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i don't think there are. but there are uncounted numbers of musical modes, that constitute the bulk of difference between regions. they could happen along the same scale, with variation on which notes get included and specific tuning.
prolly in the future there will be studies that identify the modes used in trance, etc. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Adam420
Jack why do you even bother with this guy? |
Funny thing is you fed a blatant troll the post after this. Osterzone isn't a troll, he's an ignorant and stubborn kid who in five years time won't be listening to any of this music he's defending so vehemently. He's like me when I was 15, basically, and I'm glad people were there to kick my ass rather than let me walk around thinking I was actually right. |
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| jetflagTA |
| quote: | Originally posted by Goebbel Goebbel
you like britney spears too? trance isn't enough? |
I personally liked some of her's previous works: "sometimes", "oops, I did it again", "Baby one more time" etc..."
And if so many people are still following her means that her music is appealing, pleasant, catchy, good... |
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