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trance for novice listeners; house and techno for the more experienced? (pg. 7)
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Woony
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Originally posted by Redd
I don't know anyone who knows who Kalkbrenner is. He's huge in Germany, but "everybody"? What do you call his techno btw, "fart techno"? :p


Objectively is stuff is melodic tech-house, pretty much. Somehow "electro" has become the new catch-all term for electronic music here so that's what people call him. And holy ing he is popular here. EVERY SINGLE under 35 type has heard of him.
Redd
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Originally posted by Woony
Objectively is stuff is melodic tech-house, pretty much. Somehow "electro" has become the new catch-all term for electronic music here so that's what people call him. And holy ing he is popular here. EVERY SINGLE under 35 type has heard of him.


Yeah I've understood that from watching some of the videos of appearances / concerts he's made. I guess Calling Berlin did much of the work for that. It doesn't matter if he's mainstream in Germany, I still have respect for what he does. Some of his tracks/remixes blows my mind. He could never be mainstream, or half as popular, in any other country than Germany in my opinion.
Chimney
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Originally posted by Venegan
The answer is easy.
House is for beginners because it has vocals, melody, groove and a slower BPM so it's easier to get into, then Trance due to melody, then Techno. Don't forget Trance comes partially from acid house (a harder type of house).
That being said some house tune are way harder to get into than some ArminVanBuuren track ... but guess what, it's not Trance either !!!


This is the absolute dumbest thing I've ever read in my ing life. I pray to some higher power that you really aren't this much of a cretin, but doing some idiotic form of trolling.
fredjan
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Originally posted by rubez
trance is more much accessible. and i think any true EDM fan, who is pre-programmed to this type of music will eventually end up getting more and more into house/prog/techno.

the melodies bring you in, make you aware of this 'scene', you get to know the artists and you check out their other tracks and remixes, and you find some of them of wildly different from what you were expecting. this may come as a shock, and you may be put off by this at first... but not for long.

you get drawn into different styles and sub-genres, and you realise that it's the rhythms, percussion and groove that really matter, and you will start to get into the more 'serious' types of dance naturally as you investigate... IF that's your thing... if it's not, then you were probably just buzzing off the cheesy melo's, and you wont progress, and likely aren't an EDM fan.

HOWEVER, my love for (the old type of) trance has not diminished with my love of more diverse types of dance music. and blanket saying house/techno is just better is BS. their are plenty of masterful and INTOXICATING trance tracks out there... and that's what it's all about!

Fully agreed with this post.
For example, my trance addiction started with tracks like:



And I eventually listened to Platipus, Eye Q, and so on.
Woony
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Originally posted by Redd
Yeah I've understood that from watching some of the videos of appearances / concerts he's made. I guess Calling Berlin did much of the work for that. It doesn't matter if he's mainstream in Germany, I still have respect for what he does. Some of his tracks/remixes blows my mind. He could never be mainstream, or half as popular, in any other country than Germany in my opinion.


His success in the last few years literally is 98% due to the movie. His music isn't bad but it kinda blows my mind that he is so popular. His music isn't even that flashy or anything.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by Woony
His success in the last few years literally is 98% due to the movie. His music isn't bad but it kinda blows my mind that he is so popular. His music isn't even that flashy or anything.


I have much the same impression of Deadmau5. A lot of his music sounds exactly like the ultimate stereotype of big-room, empty club music, and yet he has crossed over massively. You would think a cross-over act would be someone who twisted the formula a little bit, a la The Prodigy or Daft Punk.

My brother asked me if I wanted to go see Kalkbrenner, and my brother is usually a good yardstick for what the kids are listening to, so I'd say he's certainly big outside Germany as well.
Chimney
Always found his music quite boring. I know some Romanian chick who absolutely adores him, so he's been exposed a bit outside Germany as well.
Trance-MB
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Originally posted by Woony
EVERY SINGLE under 35 type has heard of him.


Yep, true, as I haven't :) (kind of)

But it I like what I heard and it doesn't surprise me he's popular. Guardia for instance make me think of Groovebird (which would be cool to mix into).

Sky and Sand also was a big hit over here, but I didn't remember who made it.
A track like 2Raumwohnung - Wir werden sehen (Paul Kalkbrenner Remix) which is sau geil certainly helps to get popular in Germany.
fredjan
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I have much the same impression of Deadmau5. A lot of his music sounds exactly like the ultimate stereotype of big-room, empty club music, and yet he has crossed over massively.

I wish he'd create more tracks like this :(
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Woony
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I have much the same impression of Deadmau5. A lot of his music sounds exactly like the ultimate stereotype of big-room, empty club music, and yet he has crossed over massively. You would think a cross-over act would be someone who twisted the formula a little bit, a la The Prodigy or Daft Punk.

My brother asked me if I wanted to go see Kalkbrenner, and my brother is usually a good yardstick for what the kids are listening to, so I'd say he's certainly big outside Germany as well.


The thing about Kalkbrenner is that his music doesn't even sound that big-room. It's very understated. There's no big white noise explosions, no big drops or ear-piercing stadium synths. It's like the total antithesis to what's currently big (dubstep, electro house) and yet he's massively popular.

I think Mau5's sucess really is largely due to the mouse gimmick. His music doesn't stand out from the rest of the prog/electro house being churned out but it's "look at the guy with the funny mouse head! There's a demand for electronic music within the mainstream and most people will just chug the first thing they are being marketed.
chadi
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Originally posted by Mattsanity.
Hello everyone. I'm not saying anybody who listens to trance is a novice. I'm saying that anybody who's a novice is usually into trance.


Are you talking about modern so-called "trance"? House, in its common form, is the most mainstream and popular kind of dance music there is...it's what all pop music is remixed into for club listening and dancing. Not sure how even cheesy trance would be more for beginners? Everyone starts with house.
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