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Riots and Anti-Government Protests in Egypt (pg. 13)
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| Special K |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
its easy
islam = jihad = bomb = terrorist = muslim brother hood |
, you beat me to it. But yes jad that's it in a nutshell. Thanks for the help buddy.
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
BAAAAAAHAHAHA
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HAH
Sorry for stealing your thunder.
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
put your money where your mouth is.
You are insinuating that that is the only alternative, im explaining to you that its not likely and it just goes in through one ear and out the other. You have no references except for your convuluted biggotry to back you up. So i came to the deduction that you feel that they "deserve" to be under a dictatorship, because otherwise, like all muslims, they are fundamentalist islamofacists at heart. |
Again, people of Egypt prove me wrong. I'll give it a few years, see how it plays itself out and I'll be the first to admit I was wrong, if that so happens to be the case. If not, then i'll be praying for the people of Egypt. Nah prob not because I am a racist biggot and that's not how we roll. :rolleyes: |
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| Jayx1 |
| They just reported that amongst the machine gunfire that has erupted that a large portion of the crowd is chanting "Jihad, Jihad" |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
Now yer gettin it |
wow they didnt ban you yet? |
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| Shaya007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by VDub
Now yer gettin it |
Chili = Snookie |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
They just reported that amongst the machine gunfire that has erupted that a large portion of the crowd is chanting "Jihad, Jihad" |
what are you watching? fox news? jesus christ.
"jihad" translates into "struggle" in arabic. This is comming from the police force/ paid demonstrators (most probable) that are pro mubarak. perhaps in context for them to keep fighting the pro democratic protestors through the wee hours of the morning.
unless an angry protestor against mubarak, comes out and blows himself up shouting allah we akbar, then i suggest you save your comments for the peanut gallery.
anymore biggotry? Are you simply looking for any excuse to deny these people their right to self determination. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
what are you watching? fox news? jesus christ.
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CNN actually
| quote: | | "jihad" translates into "struggle" in arabic. This is comming from the police force/ paid demonstrators (most probable) that are pro mubarak. perhaps in context for them to keep fighting the pro democratic protestors through the wee hours of the morning. |
That may be the direct translation but dont play me because we know what context that is used in these circumstances.
| quote: | | unless an angry protestor against mubarak, comes out and blows himself up shouting allah we akbar, then i suggest you save your comments for the peanut gallery. |
im just restating what was just announced on a credible news source
| quote: | | anymore biggotry? Are you simply looking for any excuse to deny these people their right to self determination. |
bigotry? Why? Because a white guy has an opinion? That bigotry comment from you is actually quite bigoted to be honest. Funny but an arabic friend of mine actually shares a lot of the same opinion as I do. I guess hes also a bigot? Oh I forgot, hes allowed to have an opinion. Im not.
I REPEAT.
I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT EGYPTIANS OR ANYONE ELSE DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION. WHAT I HAVE SAID IS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE ALTERNATIVE IS GOING TO BE FAR WORSE THAN MUBAREK MEANING A RATIONAL PERSON WOULD THEN SAY THAT MUBAREK IS THE BETTER OF TWO EVILS
Anyone else wish to put words in my mouth? |
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| jad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT EGYPTIANS OR ANYONE ELSE DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SELF DETERMINATION. WHAT I HAVE SAID IS THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE ALTERNATIVE IS GOING TO BE FAR WORSE THAN MUBAREK MEANING A RATIONAL PERSON WOULD THEN SAY THAT MUBAREK IS THE BETTER OF TWO EVILS |
I think you'd make it a lot easier on yourself if you provide some facts that proove that the alternative would be far worse, rather than just stating your opinion.
You do realise that if the Egyptian government was to democratically restructure itself, then there would be a chance for coalitions to form amongst the other (plentiful) opposition parties? These coalitions might also mirror the interests of secular citizens. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| I applogize, it just seems frustrating to have a discussion when one correlates a demographic of people instantaneously with terrorist fundamentalist at the slightest cue. I do see your point and i am in agreeance that a completely secular government is ideal and best for the people. But in the end it is the peoples right to choose their government. We should not deny them that. Seeing what mubarak strived to thus far to keep his power should leave a sour taste in anyones mouth. Hence the reaction of the international community. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jad
I think you'd make it a lot easier on yourself if you provide some facts that proove that the alternative would be far worse, rather than just stating your opinion.
You do realise that if the Egyptian government was to democratically restructure itself, then there would be a chance for coalitions to form amongst the other (plentiful) opposition parties? These coalitions might also mirror the interests of secular citizens. |
look back in the thread... i provided that proof.
And your IF is a big IF. I hope it happens but im very doubtful. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
I applogize, it just seems frustrating to have a discussion when one correlates a demographic of people instantaneously with terrorist fundamentalist at the slightest cue. I do see your point and i am in agreeance that a completely secular government is ideal and best for the people. But in the end it is the peoples right to choose their government. We should not deny them that. Seeing what mubarak strived to thus far to keep his power should leave a sour taste in anyones mouth. Hence the reaction of the international community. |
So we agree then.
Fundamentalists of any religion are dangerous. Since we are talking about Egypt, we are talking about Islamic fundamentalists. Id have the same opinion about a theocracy of any religion.
I do hope that Egypt becomes democratic for the sake of everyone. |
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| jad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
look back in the thread... i provided that proof.
And your IF is a big IF. I hope it happens but im very doubtful. |
It could happen. Hopefully there'll be a sustainable balance between the representing parties of the future.
Sorry man I couldn't find any solid referenced facts.. you could quote em or state some new ones. |
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| -g- |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
the point is that the people who are leading this are not looking for democracy. Quite the contrary.
Id rather have mubarek in than some theocratical lunatic. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Do i support Mubarek? No. |
and that's your problem.
a failure to imagine.
for your own sake, try it some time. |
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