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No One Went to Decadence? Ha! (pg. 8)
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by E2EK1EL
You won't see a line up like 2004+, until another massive club opens up in Toronto. Back then there was Boa, Sonic and Circa around. This forced Guv and System to book very competitively, every weekend and long weekend.
IMO the best lineup ever compiled was Labour of Love 2 in 2003. |
We were just talking about that Decadence last night. What a great party that was. The level of talent that Guv brought in was leaps and bounds ahead of the crap they bring in now.
And anybody saying that they need to do this to "pack" the club is on crack. The club gets packed regardless, mostly because of hype. |
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| Jayx1 |
| whats funny is i remember 10 years ago people were having the exact same conversation about the "new" crowd as you guys are having today. The EXACT same. Even down to the gino commentary and fist pumps although there was no jersey shore then. |
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| djbruuen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
whats funny is i remember 10 years ago people were having the exact same conversation about the "new" crowd as you guys are having today. The EXACT same. Even down to the gino commentary and fist pumps although there was no jersey shore then. |
100% agree. I remember a lot of decadence threads way back where people were bitching about how bad the line ups were, and those same line ups have been resurrected here as to the glory days of the past.
I personally really like Kaskade and Axwell. Its too bad their style has been influenced by money, which is evident based on a set you would have heard from either of them several years back. Also, the guvernment looks more like Much Music Electric Circus now, opposed to the darker appearance of the past, and that definitely has a lot to do with the higher commercial crowd thats been slowly looming in the past couple years. |
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| hax-a-million |
| i still have random conversations with people, always seems to happen |
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| mdm8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by hax-a-million
i still have random conversations with people, always seems to happen |
Every time. Still one of my favourite parts of Guv. The REAL ravers (in the 2011 sense of the word) still exist, you've just gotta know how to pick em out. |
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| kotsy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dinoz2013
I used to be with "It". Then It became was it was, and what it is seems weird and eerie. |
lol
simpsons? |
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| feelgood |
| quote: | Originally posted by Takayuki
The new kids on the block have no idea about any of the history of the scene or how it came about nor do they care if the DJ is playing on 4 decks/laptop/vinyl/live PA etc. How technically talented the DJ's are of today make absolutely no difference to them as long as the music/party is good enough for them then the masses will flock to the next big party.
Most people retire from the "club" scene after 25 and vie for a much more intimate alternative to avoid the crowds, young punks and to enjoy a more private setting... hence the VIP bottle service BS. After a certain age you should start to realize that hanging around 19 yr old EDM virgins isn't exactly something that entices the "older" crowds to want to go out. Most of the time they are sloppy and can't handle their drinking/drugs and don't have any etiquette... another reason you hear so many people complaining about how pushy/rude the crowd is... although that was prevalent even in 2005/2006 but probably not nearly as bad as it is now. |
This.
at 25 years old, im beginning to realize what 'growing out of the scene' really means. I have no desire to go to guv for anything these days. Its all about the smaller, more intimate venues. |
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| Bryce Santiago |
My speculation is this. The old guard DJs that we all know since 1994, are seriously aging and they've generally been priced high. These younger guys are horny for cash and gigs (at the same time). I wouldn't be surprised if they are under cutting the older guys to squeeze them out.
As this is a business afterall, if the venue can get newer, younger, cheaper DJs, do you really think the venue cares about 'supporting' the old guard. I highly doubt it.
The scene will thrive though, it always will. New clubs will pop up to support the crowds who may not want to hang with the teeny boppers. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| I think we are on the verge of something special and that is a growing underground scene again. As the music becomes more popular a bigger underground scene will emerge. The difference between this new growing underground scene and the old underground scene will be the age of the partiers. This new underground scene will be dominated by the 25-35 year olds. |
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| Torontoprospect |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I think we are on the verge of something special and that is a growing underground scene again. As the music becomes more popular a bigger underground scene will emerge. The difference between this new growing underground scene and the old underground scene will be the age of the partiers. This new underground scene will be dominated by the 25-35 year olds. |
Only problem I see is DJ costs are ridiculous now and one group controls most of the bookings which is why pretty much all events are at Guv but maybe there'll be some awesome Djs we haven't heard of yet that can take over the scene. |
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| hax-a-million |
| quote: | Originally posted by Torontoprospect
Only problem I see is DJ costs are ridiculous now and one group controls most of the bookings which is why pretty much all events are at Guv but maybe there'll be some awesome Djs we haven't heard of yet that can take over the scene. |
seems like there are a lot more djs/producers though, it's a lot more accessible than it used to be and there are certainly more (and better) distribution channels these days
if these "new guys" are actually undercutting the old guys, a third level should inevitably form that undercuts the second level. those guys who are willing to travel and tour for less, with locals mixed in, would make smaller underground parties affordable and hopefully not full of diluted crap
that would be really cool and i also see that as the logical result of the recent commercialization of edm. sure, some people are flaky and will just leave when the next music trend hits but i'm sure a lot of people will choose to dig deeper and find their niche of choice, then remain hooked for life |
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| StereoPrincess |
i think people have it all wrong.
you don't go to a big party at the guv for the DJ, you go for the party and club, they could honestly play a recorded CD and still it would be packed. |
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