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Surviving a party "sober" (pg. 6)
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Dykes_on_Jay
no experience usually means that you should shut the up and shove your 2 cents up your bumcunt.
EddieZilker
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Originally posted by InnerReflection
As for my ecstasy taking advice being really crappy, well yeh it probably is. I've only had it twice and , I'm only 19. Do you expect me to have tons of experience?


Yes. Whether you wanted to or not, you assumed an authoritative tone; implying that you had either experience or qualified information that concerned taking MDMA and dancing. As it is, your advice is based on assumptions you've made after taking only two hits of MDMA and was not informed by additional research. It isn't that I won't accept advice from a 19 year-old but I am dubious as to its quality when the teenager qualifies his advice with his age and inexperience concerning the matter he is discussing.
SYSTEM-J
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Originally posted by InnerReflection
As for my ecstasy taking advice being really crappy, well yeh it probably is. I've only had it twice and , I'm only 19. Do you expect me to have tons of experience?


I'd expect someone with hardly any experience not to post advice, you cretin.
Frenkieee
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'd expect someone with hardly any experience not to post advice, you cretin.

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Looney4Clooney
Do you really need first hand experience to have knowledge. Pretty sure the lot of pharmacologists that are leaders in their field in regards to synaptic activity when exposed to say crack are not freebasing to get a more holistic understanding.

Or are they. Dun dun duuuuun.
srussell0018
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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Do you really need first hand experience to have knowledge. Pretty sure the lot of pharmacologists that are leaders in their field in regards to synaptic activity when exposed to say crack are not freebasing to get a more holistic understanding.


That's somewhat of a fallacious argument. Suppose there is a leading neuroscientist who is an expert in the field of color vision. She knows everything there is to know about the biological and physiological processes in the brain that allow for the processing of color vision. Then suppose she has been blind her entire life. Does she really "know" what green is? The same can be said for a pharmacologist who is describing the effects of crack, or any other drug for that matter. They know what the drug does to the brain, they know the effects it elicits, but I think somebody who actually has experienced the effects might have a more valuable insight about the actual feelings and/or side effects of taking whichever drug it is.
Halcyon+On+On
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Originally posted by srussell0018
That's somewhat of a fallacious argument. Suppose there is a leading neuroscientist who is an expert in the field of color vision. She knows everything there is to know about the biological and physiological processes in the brain that allow for the processing of color vision. Then suppose she has been blind her entire life. Does she really "know" what green is? The same can be said for a pharmacologist who is describing the effects of crack, or any other drug for that matter. They know what the drug does to the brain, they know the effects it elicits, but I think somebody who actually has experienced the effects might have a more valuable insight about the actual feelings and/or side effects of taking whichever drug it is.


Obligatory:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc
srussell0018
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qualia-knowledge/
SYSTEM-J
quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Do you really need first hand experience to have knowledge. Pretty sure the lot of pharmacologists that are leaders in their field in regards to synaptic activity when exposed to say crack are not freebasing to get a more holistic understanding.


He has about as much knowledge as he does experience.
Looney4Clooney
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Originally posted by srussell0018
That's somewhat of a fallacious argument. Suppose there is a leading neuroscientist who is an expert in the field of color vision. She knows everything there is to know about the biological and physiological processes in the brain that allow for the processing of color vision. Then suppose she has been blind her entire life. Does she really "know" what green is? The same can be said for a pharmacologist who is describing the effects of crack, or any other drug for that matter. They know what the drug does to the brain, they know the effects it elicits, but I think somebody who actually has experienced the effects might have a more valuable insight about the actual feelings and/or side effects of taking whichever drug it is.


wasn't an argument and it wasn't fallacious even if posited as an argument. Unless you meant fellatious. The point is that you don't need to experience something to know something about it.

srussell0018
But in the absence of knowledge about something, experience would probably come in handy when giving advice about said something.
Looney4Clooney
never said otherwise.
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