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Surviving a party "sober" (pg. 9)
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Dykes_on_Jay
sounds like epic . be young, have fun, drink pepsi.

pepsi sucks.
PivotTechno






http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ility-drug.html
Lews
quote:
Originally posted by Miss Pie
I don't care what anyone says, name calling is hilarious. I lolled good at 'bumcunt'. And plain old 'you cretin'....I dunno why, but I find to the point insults so ing funny. :stongue:


I quite enjoyed 'mincing poofer' as well.
Silky Johnson
Lolol yeah. :stongue:
DJ RANN
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ility-drug.html [/QUOTE]

God, leaving the daily mail behind is one of the sweetest things about not living in the UK anymore.

I have to agree with Jack's sentiments about pill usage, but something did change with the drug;

In the early 90's, one decent pill could keep you up all night and one easily lasted 6-8 hours. No, it's not about tolerance, but the drug itself - a few years later, pills would only really last 3, maybe 4 hours tops.

Listen to any of the stories from the early Danny Rampling/Nicky Holloway/Oakenfold period and you it mentioned again and again, that pills were much stronger, purer and lasted longer and they'd just take one to go all night.

Fast forward a few years to the mitsubishi period and it was common place to need 4 or 5 in a regular club night.

You couldn't double or even triple drop in those days, even the most ardent gurn monster would be getting scraped off the floor.
jonmitz
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J

Eddie, what the are you talking about? He's saying almost the exact opposite. Firstly, he's advising against MDMA use, because he presumes re-dropping would be a "lame experience", so he clearly does not believe that taking a second pill would be just as good as the first one. Then PKC says "you can smash that for as long as your have serotonin" to which he disagrees again, and claims only a minority of people would get benefits from repeated dropping.

Yet again, you type hundreds of redundant words because you failed to understand the original premise.

Also, and just to make this extremely clear, it is fine for most people to drop two pills or bombs in the course of an extended night. I do it regularly, and it's common practise amongst all my clubbing friends. Everyone has their own tolerance towards every drug, so specific people have their own approach which works best, but I've found that two doses taken 3-5 hours apart will last the whole night and won't leave too much emotional wreckage come mid-week. For me, it's the third dose when the effect starts to get noticeably weaker and the after-effects significantly more wrist-slashingly notable.

MDMA only really becomes dangerous if people don't manage their water intake correctly due to being inexperienced or massively ed, or if they start fiending after it and just take ridiculous quantities. I'm pretty sure most experienced users will agree with me on this information.


This post not directly completely at you, more towards lurkers and such reading this. Maybe it will be useful for you as well, I don't know.

MDMA tolerance builds up quite rapidly. You certainly can dose several hours apart, there is nothing wrong with that (depending on what you want to get from the second dose, and the relative size, your health, past usage, etc), although I would like to add if you don't have, for all intents and purposes, an unlimited supply the most efficient effect/dose and dosing is the following:

T+0:00: first dose
T+1:00: second dose, 70-75% of the first dose

Why is this? Under most circumstances (all that I have ever read about, or experienced myself or secondhand) have been that you will not top the peak of the first dose with the second dose. This is due to a lot of reasons, tolerance buildup (which happens very quickly), serotonin in the brain, other things I wont get into, etc. Using the dosing schedule above will get you the best roll/amount of MDMA [research done on TCC&BL, as well as 1st/2nd hand]. You can expect to have the total experience last to the 6th hour, maybe even to T+6:30. (A single dose of MDMA will wear off/metabolize by the 5th hour, give or take for any given individual and their biological makeup/condition)

Again, if your intention is to be rolling for 8+ hours, this method isnt going to help you. You can always on the comedown
DOOMBOT
Good music and a good crowd is all you really need. I've gone 8+ hours on 0 to just a couple of beers and had an absolute blast. I remember walking out of D-Edge at almost 8am (not realizing what time it was until we finally made it outside) and I had 1 beer the whole night. I got there at 11pm. So I think if you make sure you get enough rest before getting to the show and then the show itself is a lot of fun, you'll be fine.
Fledz
quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ility-drug.html

God, leaving the daily mail behind is one of the sweetest things about not living in the UK anymore.

I have to agree with Jack's sentiments about pill usage, but something did change with the drug;

In the early 90's, one decent pill could keep you up all night and one easily lasted 6-8 hours. No, it's not about tolerance, but the drug itself - a few years later, pills would only really last 3, maybe 4 hours tops.

Listen to any of the stories from the early Danny Rampling/Nicky Holloway/Oakenfold period and you it mentioned again and again, that pills were much stronger, purer and lasted longer and they'd just take one to go all night.

Fast forward a few years to the mitsubishi period and it was common place to need 4 or 5 in a regular club night.

You couldn't double or even triple drop in those days, even the most ardent gurn monster would be getting scraped off the floor.


Of course. The drug barons figured out they could make a whole lot more money if they cut it all differently. Why have a pure tablet if you can mix in 50% only and still sell it for the same price? Or even less.
InnerReflection
quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
man you guys must get good . by the time i quit eckies i was up to 7 or 8 per night.

That's really dangerous, if you had pills that had mda (can be difficult to distinguish sometimes) you can overdose on 4.

Also, if you have that type of long term tolerance (I'm assuming you weren't just taking REALLY pills) you've already done a lot of physical damage possibly permanently.

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The OP doesn't want to take drugs, so it's irrelevant advice in the first place. You would think the thread title would give you a clue on that front, but apparently not. If someone was asking about what drugs are best for extended partying sessions then I might bother to weigh in with my thoughts on MDMA.

+more

I know everyone's sick of my input, but what system j said conforms to my understanding far more than what eddie said.
Lews
Listen to Jack, not Eddie. In everything. Eddie I love you. Just saying;.

UWM
Drugs.
pkcRAISTLIN
quote:
Originally posted by InnerReflection
That's really dangerous, if you had pills that had mda (can be difficult to distinguish sometimes) you can overdose on 4.


i dont need nobby-no-friends to advise me about my drug use, thanks.
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