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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
Surprised you haven't already written about Diggers! |
Pretty disappointed by him, in all honesty. There were flashes of brilliance but so many frustrating, counter-intuitive moments as well. He came on after Steve Parry, who had played a perfect warm-up set. You can listen to it here:
By the last tune of Parry's set the club had filled up and people were jumping up in down with excitement. It was one of those moments where the main DJ is coming on at peak time and you can feel the whole club is ready to explode. So Digweed stepped up immediately poured cold water all over the vibe, playing a good 45 minutes of stripped down, utterly unexciting tech house grooves. Completely flattened the crowd. It took almost an hour for him to really get going, and when he did there were 20-30 minute sections where he'd string together a cavalcade of dark, growling Digweed drivers and it felt like the party was back on. But then every half hour or so he'd strip it right back down to more tech house drums, and then build it up again from scratch.
Towards the end he did build up a consistent head of steam, but the big moments of the final act were provided by one of my pet irritations of current clubbing, namely "breakdown techno". You know the : peak hour techno tunes with ludicrously convoluted breakdowns, 2-3 minutes long apiece, as tedious and manipulative as anything from the snareroll era of uplifting trance. I swear at one point it sonded like he mixed out of one massive breakdown straight into the start of another massive breakdown. There must have been 5 straight minutes without any bass. The crowd always gives a massive cheer when these kind of tunes finally drop, but I just find it ing boring to stand around for minutes on end waiting for something I can dance to.
I don't understand why he flatlined the energy for so long at the start and kept letting it wind back down mid-set. It's clearly a deliberate set building decision but it's so ing frustrating when the club is bouncing and just wants straight up destruction. The hell with your clever-clever journey paradigm Diggers, just give the people what they want. |
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| planetaryplayer |
| although i phased out prog this year due to too much spending in other genres, i must say i have never witnessed hernan cattaneo play a set that was below a 9/10 rating. el maestro for a reason. he's playing in a back to back with guy j coming up, but i will probably miss it (dislike guy j as a dj) |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by planetaryplayer
although i phased out prog this year due to too much spending in other genres, i must say i have never witnessed hernan cattaneo play a set that was below a 9/10 rating. el maestro for a reason. |
There are certain DJs that you hear play and can tell it's absolutely effortless for them. He's definitely one. To watch his label underlings sweat and toil behind the decks and then him kick them out of the booth and smash the club to pieces just illustrated the difference in class. |
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| planetaryplayer |
| If I were to pick a single DJ per genre he would top the prog/melodic list |
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| evo8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
There are certain DJs that you hear play and can tell it's absolutely effortless for them. He's definitely one. To watch his label underlings sweat and toil behind the decks and then him kick them out of the booth and smash the club to pieces just illustrated the difference in class. |
Always liked Cattaneo but never got to see him live, his set sounds really good from your description, cant remember the last time I heard some tribal style prog in a club..... not sure hes ever played in Ireland so will probably have to catch him abroad
not surprised about Digweed. For the past few years ive always thought that hes got caught in no man's land music wise |
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| Woony |
| Haven't been out much recently but the best set i've heard in a while was Christopher Rau at Panorama Bar. It's one of sets that you just kinda catch because you're already there and it was ing great. Especially in the first hour he stringed together a whole bag of killer tracks, great oldschool techhouse, groovy tribal style tracks, detroit-y techno, UK garage, electro and even an absolutely ace jungle revival track that I would have loved to ID. A lot of people seemed to hate it because it was a bit all over the place and the mixing was a bit dodgy but that, if someone plays all these killer tracks in a row I don't care. |
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| Sykonee |
As usual, went to Vancouver's bi-annual Sequential Circus live-PA event back in October. One guy played a set strictly off two Gameboys. It was awesome!
That was followed up by an indie-pop duo, which promptly killed the floor deader than I've ever seen at this event. SC is not the sort of crowd for that at all. Told the organizer, "Hey, even if it didn't work, at least you were willing to try something different. And now you know to never do it again." |
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| Lira |
| Four score and seven years ago, I saw Umek. It was fun. Then I saw Oliver Klein. It wasn't :p |
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| Mr Game+Watch |
Every time I've seen Cattaneo, I expect something smooth and melodic but get pretty banging peak-time tribal prog. But I haven't seen him since the early part of this decade...
Just got tickets for the Anjunadeep tour in NYC next week - will have Jody, YOTTO, Gab Rhome and Theo Kottis. |
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| Paradox Lost |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
There are certain DJs that you hear play and can tell it's absolutely effortless for them. He's definitely one. |
Hard to imagine he was an Oakenfold protege. The only thing I imagine he could have possibly learned from Oakey was how to grow his hair out. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Woony
Haven't been out much recently but the best set i've heard in a while was Christopher Rau at Panorama Bar. It's one of sets that you just kinda catch because you're already there and it was ing great. Especially in the first hour he stringed together a whole bag of killer tracks, great oldschool techhouse, groovy tribal style tracks, detroit-y techno, UK garage, electro and even an absolutely ace jungle revival track that I would have loved to ID. A lot of people seemed to hate it because it was a bit all over the place and the mixing was a bit dodgy but that, if someone plays all these killer tracks in a row I don't care. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Hard to imagine he was an Oakenfold protege. The only thing I imagine he could have possibly learned from Oakey was how to grow his hair out. |
I'm not masssively familiar with Cattaneo's bio, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't like he hung out in Oakey's bedroom learning how to beatmatch from the great ape himself. My understanding is that he was resident at a venue in Buenos Aires who used to put on big proggy/trancey jocks like Oakey, Sasha and Digweed, who were uniformly struck by how good Cattaneo was behind the decks when warming up. Oakenfold may have helped break him by putting his stuff out on Perfecto but that's about as much credit as he can take. |
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