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Can alcohol turn otherwise nice people into supercharged assh0les? (pg. 3)
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| Vector A |
| I blacked out maybe twice. The dumbest thing I ever did was attack an outdoor air conditioning unit. |
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| DJ RANN |
Most people I know are really just their drunken selves although I've known a few people that the moment they get tipsy or drunk just ing change.
One girl I know, the moment she's drunk just turns on anyone who even slightly looks at her the wrong way or chucks it with complete strangers. I told her straight up I'm never going drinking with her again as I always end up stopping fights.
Another guy I knew who was usually really reserved, even shy, would just turn in to a different person; loud, singing, really animated etc and would not remember a ing thing the next day. Most of the time he thought we were winding him up about it so we starting filming him.
He basically couldn't get hammered without memory loss.
Most people handle it, some play up to it as Jack was alluding to but I feel some people have a chemical and physiological make up that just means alcohol changes the way their brain functions in person of their usual behavior and personality. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I'm aware that addicts get a bigger dopamine response from alcohol which makes it more pleasurable to them and more likely for them to binge, but I don't see where the "gigantic " part comes in. |
It's pretty simple. Dopamine increases feelings of pleasure/reward, which in turn lowers inhibitions.
If a person already has a more sensitive dopamine response, then it's going to be even more difficult for them to keep the beast caged, so to speak.
These are people who, because of their existing catecholamine imbalance, probably already struggle with personal responsibility, boundaries, etc. So they turn into s when they drink. |
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| OrangestO |
It sounds like some of you disregard alcoholism? As a disorder?
Is that right, guy(s)? |
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| tubularbills |
| quote: | Originally posted by Silky Johnson
The bottom line is, alcohol impairs judgment and decision making. Even a tightly wound never-do-wrong might come undone with the right amount of Tequila. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| Ughhhh tequila. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Silky Johnson
These are people who, because of their existing catecholamine imbalance, probably already struggle with personal responsibility, boundaries, etc. So they turn into s when they drink. |
Are you agreeing with me or arguing with me? Because you're effectively saying the same thing: latent aspects of their personality are being exacerbated by alcohol. Someone who's already unbalanced and irresponsible is going to have these features magnified when they drink. It's not like the booze is affecting a complete personality change.
| quote: | Originally posted by OrangestO
It sounds like some of you disregard alcoholism? As a disorder?
Is that right, guy(s)? |
I don't believe that everyone who has a massive personality shift when they drink is automatically an alcoholic or an addict. Certainly the people I know who display this kind of shift aren't alcoholics. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| You're actually agreeing with me. I know it's hard for you to admit, but it's ok. :) |
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| SYSTEM-J |
I asked "Is there any evidence that alcohol has a fundamentally different effect on their brain, that it can conjure up behaviour that simply isn't there otherwise?" You replied "Yes" and then gave an explanation that totally failed to demonstrate that.
God loves a trier. |
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| Vector A |
| Quick, OrangestO, Jack made a typo. Pounce! |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| My posts have been full of terrible typos/minor mistakes recently, but I must admit I can't spot this one. |
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| Vector A |
| Actually it was in reference to the post before, "affecting a complete personality change." You made a second post before I sent mine. |
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