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| DigiNut |
LoL... this guy cracks me up.
FYI I'm studying electrical engineering and I've had honours for 2 years also. But this isn't about me, nor should it be. You assume a lot of things about people you've never met - on the other hand, you've been sitting at your computer replying to threads for the past hour and a half (glancing at the times of your posts), so what does that say about you?
And dude you sound like you're recruiting for your program or something. Some profs make 90-120k... but not history profs. :p Sorry dude, but I'd have to try NOT to get 80s in an Arts program. I know you're awfully proud of yourself for it but don't be.
You made an ass of yourself with the SARS bit, don't criticize us for pointing it out to ya. :haha: |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
Um....actually man...professors make money based on their seniority, and if they have a FULL professorship, not on their field. Associate professors do not make as much for example. I was getting my information from the Western faculty pamphlet (ie job descriptions and salaries) and YES, any professor can make $120,000 which is the maximum salary. I'm sure it's similar across the nation.
Oh, and I do not visit this board nearly as much as some of you people in here. I might have 200 posts in the last 6 months since I joined.
History is NOT an Arts program...it's a Social Science. Shows how much you know. Marks in social sciences are actually lower in some cases as compared to all you stuck up science people. Essays and exams are very subjective...a GREAT paper in history usually gets you an 80, which is an A, which in turn are quite rare. My lowest essay mark ever has been an 83. At least engineering and math are EXACT sciences...there is always a right answer.
Why would you even criticise any program in university anyway? Stop being so cliquey just because you're in Engineering. We call you people snobs. |
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| Durafei |
| quote: | | History is NOT an Arts program...it's a Social Science. Shows how much you know. Marks in social sciences are actually lower in some cases as compared to all you stuck up science people. Essays and exams are very subjective...a GREAT paper in history usually gets you an 80, which is an A, which in turn are quite rare. My lowest essay mark ever has been an 83. At least engineering and math are EXACT sciences...there is always a right answer. |
That was the STUPIDEST, and I mean the STUPIDEST thing I ever read on this board ! And for your information, History is part of Arts faculty at my university( waterloo). |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Durafei
That was the STUPIDEST, and I mean the STUPIDEST thing I ever read on this board ! And for your information, History is part of Arts faculty at my university( waterloo). |
Why is it stupid?
English is an Arts course and so are Languages and Film. History, Political Science, Psychology, Sociology are examples of a SOCIAL SCIENCE.
If you've ever done a paper...you'll know that there is the MLA style of citations which is suitable for Arts courses and the Chicago style for Social Sciences.
Putting History in the Arts department is wrong. |
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| Durafei |
| Stupid is how you say it's more difficult to get a high mark in History than in engineering or math because these two are exact sciences. Please refrain from such ridicouls comments in the future, as they are absolutely not true. |
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| DigiNut |
I'm not going to argue with most of this tripe but just to correct you on one point, you asked me what I was studying (albeit very rudely and sarcastically). You were the one that started up with your "high academic standards," not me.
And as a point of interest, I find that most people I meet in sciences and engineering tend to be pretty nice and modest people (since our semesters are brutal and we'd fail without each others' help), and are more than willing to help out with academics and anything else - whereas, lots of artsy types seem really obsessed with how smart they are and consistently try to prove their superiority over everyone else.
Point in case.... ^^^
Not meaning to stereotype or anything... some arts students are great people, especially ones doing their graduate studies. I'm only talking about the ones taking bird courses in bird programs who seem like they always have something to prove.
P.S. I follow the IEEE standards, don't give a crap about MLA or Chicago, and honestly, what do writing standards bodies have to do with anything? And incidentally, I've also gotten marks of 95+ in English and other arts courses, so it is possible. |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Durafei
Stupid is how you say it's more difficult to get a high mark in History than in engineering or math because these two are exact sciences. Please refrain from such ridicouls comments in the future, as they are absolutely not true. |
What I meant was that if you take someone who is a genius in math or engineering (like my uncle for example) and someone is a brilliant or very skilled essay writer....guaranteed 100% the engineering student will have the higher mark! Why? Because it's possible to get over 90, even a mid 90 in Engineering or Math. My friend's brother graduated with a 93 average in Mechanical Engineering from Western...case in point. It is absolutely just NOT possible for a history student or a PoliSci or even an English student to get an average like that. |
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| DJ El Kay Dee |
hmmm ...
Thread name should be changed to: the Idiot trying to brag thread |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
I'm not going to argue with most of this tripe but just to correct you on one point, you asked me what I was studying (albeit very rudely and sarcastically). You were the one that started up with your "high academic standards," not me.
And as a point of interest, I find that most people I meet in sciences and engineering tend to be pretty nice and modest people (since our semesters are brutal and we'd fail without each others' help), and are more than willing to help out with academics and anything else - whereas, lots of artsy types seem really obsessed with how smart they are and consistently try to prove their superiority over everyone else.
Point in case.... ^^^
Not meaning to stereotype or anything... some arts students are great people, especially ones doing their graduate studies. I'm only talking about the ones taking bird courses in bird programs who seem like they always have something to prove. |
That's funny......it's the exact opposite at Western. The "average" people are in Social Sciences. Just because I'm in history does not mean I'm some Artsy Fartsy intellectual who over analyses everything. I go to my history classes, do my essays and party on the weekends. For the last time, History is a SOCIAL SCIENCE, not an "Art".
My friend is in computer science....I sometimes go to the lab with him and almost everyone in there is stuck up and some of them are just plain weirdos. And it's all guys too. I would never, EVER associate with those people....they're just too strange for my tastes. A lot of people in Sciences are.....well, geeks. I know that's stereotyping but it's true most of the time. |
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| Durafei |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
What I meant was that if you take someone who is a genius in math or engineering (like my uncle for example) and someone is a brilliant or very skilled essay writer....guaranteed 100% the engineering student will have the higher mark! Why? Because it's possible to get over 90, even a mid 90 in Engineering or Math. My friend's brother graduated with a 93 average in Mechanical Engineering from Western...case in point. It is absolutely just NOT possible for a history student or a PoliSci or even an English student to get an average like that. |
I just find it a little surprising how all these arts, history and whatever students always find time to actually look good, whereas us - math,cs,engineering students often don't have time to eat, forget shave or take a shower. I guess it must be because Arts,history programs are way tougher.. :rolleyes: |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| at least science courses are made up of weekly or monthly assignments. Try having to do two 5,000 or 10,000 word essays that involve primary and secondary sources and scholarly articles for one course that comprise about 60 percent of your mark. The exam is usually 40 or 30, with 10 percent in participation. Having your success hinge or two or three assignments...that's real pressure. |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Durafei
I just find it a little surprising how all these arts, history and whatever students always find time to actually look good, whereas us - math,cs,engineering students often don't have time to eat, forget shave or take a shower. I guess it must be because Arts,history programs are way tougher.. :rolleyes: |
Oh, but you have time to hit up dance clubs and raves every weekend eh? Yeah....so tough man. It all depends on your natural skill level when it comes to sciences. Either you're good at it, or you're not. My friend is a great example.....he struggles in computer science because he's just an average programmer. He just gets by using standard and often obsolete methods of coding...let alone ever writing NEW code!
Some of his friends in CS finish their assignments in a matter of hours, whereas it takes him days. Sciences can be a royal pain in the ass if you're ty at them to begin with. |
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