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How often per day do you practise on your decks? (pg. 9)
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| tranceboy |
| Werd to the techno mixing, when i bang out my suf tunes the mixes can go for minutes and all the cutting and sampling is in a. |
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| GelatinPufF |
| quote: | Originally posted by JulesPLees
GelatinPuff I think u may have me konfused with Julian Reynolds...maybe....
...with the mixing thing...do any of you guys ever isolate different instruments..eg hi hats and bring them in swiftly...then slowly morph tracks just using the eq's?
If I am sounding like a showoff or a wanker...PLees tell me..I dont wanna...I am just interested) |
As in "highthats" you mean cut/lower the High/Mid EQs? Sometimes i do.
But i always use the EQ to cut out the lows (THE BASS :whip: ) Damn that bass sometimes :whip: |
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| Trancey Ash |
| quote: | Originally posted by JulesPLees
GelatinPuff I think u may have me konfused with Julian Reynolds...maybe....
...with the mixing thing...do any of you guys ever isolate different instruments..eg hi hats and bring them in swiftly...then slowly morph tracks just using the eq's?
If I am sounding like a showoff or a wanker...PLees tell me..I dont wanna...I am just interested) |
na your not a wanker mate, its cool
yeh i often bring in treb first, then morph the rest, if you can brng in the treb early i find that when everything else is morphing, it doesnt sounds like its changing song that much, cause you have the same treb.
eg listen to Oakenfold's Gatecrasher 99 mix.
From Art of Trance ----> Universal Nation cause he brings in treb early you dont even notice the tracks change unless you know them well. Although they are also similar cause they are both Ferry Mixes. |
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| JayKuE |
nice thread.
some interesting as well as weird things here.
i've never heard of pressing the start button to cue up the track. think most ppl just keep the table spinning, cue it up on the first beat of a phrase, and flick the wrist when they feel right to bring it in. poorer the torque u have, the harder u flick.
as for dj schools or help? i'm kinda unfortunate, not knowing anybody who djs, let alone likes trance. so yup, had to go the self taught route, and still on it. i hear "dj secrets" mentioned in here, but i don't think they're a general set of secrets or techniques all djs know. as gumble says, mixing is kinda like an art, so its an individual thing. take into account they're so many ways to mix i.e. cross fader, channel faders, eqs, gains... everybody has a unique mixing style of what works. you find this of course, after loads of experimentation. its fun tho :D
personally, i use channel faders and all three eq bands to isolate or bring in certain parts of a tune. i'll use gains to adjust the volumes, as well as ears. only time i'll touch the cross fader is to do silly tricks like the "1 2 3 zippp 1".. mm. kinda hard to explain. i'm sure i've recorded one b4, hold on.
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i have a habit of letting the melody synth of an outgoing tune lay over the new tune. sometimes it works, but a lot of the time i'll backfire and just sound bad. here are some samples from random mixes i've done.
theme from banginglobe [system f mix] -> universal nation 2003 [push mix][2.08]
endless wave [albion mix] -> third earth [1.29]
pitstop -> sun is coming out [uplifting mix] [3.26] |
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| Hybrid Junkie |
Yeah jules, I use volume/channel faders, keep crossfader in middle during transitions, and use the eqs to gradually bring in or fade out stuff (or slam it in, depends obviously).
Although sometimes I love having the low end eqs up for both tracks the whole time (slowly bring in one) because some tracks complement each other with the bass as much as opening/ending melodies/samples.
One example is
Morph - Maximum Overdrive (Benicio mix ) -> Exposure - Magic Impuls
you can have both tracks at almost full volume for almost 3 mins (can't remember it exactly, can't be ed to go downstairs) I think you start exposure at a phrase around 2:50ish, slowly bring it up, and you can leave them both on until overdrive ends with "maximum-maximum-overdrive-drive" RIGHT when the breakdown in Magic Impuls starts.....soo yumm.
Also another thing Jay-Kue, be careful with yer gains because it's not really for volume. It's more for if you've got phono in one channel and aux in another channel, because turntables use slightly different frequencies cos it's no digital, and usually a bit quieter, so u can turn the gain up a bit, and keep the cd gain at default.
But yeah, I do use the gain a bit for softer/emptier volume tracks, try and use the volume faders more though. Just a thought...I've just been told by friends who do sound engineering about the gain a bit. |
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| Dj_Psygnosis |
| quote: | Originally posted by GelatinPufF
29-30-31-32-1-2-3-4-5-6....
^you're setting up the cue about here(which is roughly two seconds before you want to throw it in), and then once it speed up you have it right.(its okay i guess, it still works, but if you get on another deck it wont work, because another deck will take more or less time to spin up)
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i think you got confused for what i mean, i don't cue it up on # 29 of your little graph....i do have the record playing there but its only the silence bit, the beat kicks in around 1 and 2, then all i do is nudge it back, thats all. |
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| Ghostface |
I've only been mixing for 5 months so if my comments are stupid well then yeah
I never really thought of using the channel faders to mix with. Why is it 'more accurate'? I thought that was the entire point of the x-fader?
Generally I like to do longer mixes for prog and builders and really slam the mixes when playing really ptm stuff
ie mix out over two phrases and on the first beat of the new phrase cut completely into the new track for the vocal or the very early phrase where the beat cuts out so it sounds pretty dramatic. |
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| Ghostface |
| and also whats the problem with using gain to boost the signal? I leave my channel faders at max becuase i use the xfader to mix. |
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| JayKuE |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hybrid Junkie
Also another thing Jay-Kue, be careful with yer gains because it's not really for volume. It's more for if you've got phono in one channel and aux in another channel, because turntables use slightly different frequencies cos it's no digital, and usually a bit quieter, so u can turn the gain up a bit, and keep the cd gain at default.
But yeah, I do use the gain a bit for softer/emptier volume tracks, try and use the volume faders more though. Just a thought...I've just been told by friends who do sound engineering about the gain a bit. |
mmm. not to sure if i described it correctly. i use the gains to adjust those pretty green and red lights to the same level. the VU meters i think they're called? *shrug* i know that if its too much in the red, its not healthy :D
| quote: | Originally posted by Ghostface
I've only been mixing for 5 months so if my comments are stupid well then yeah
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hehe, if that's the case, then mine are stupider! |
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| Ghostface |
| quote: | Originally posted by JayKuE
mmm. not to sure if i described it correctly. i use the gains to adjust those pretty green and red lights to the same level. |
That's EXACTLY what I do. What is the supposed problem with this? |
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| Dj_Psygnosis |
| If it works for you then use it, don't try to follow the formula of someone else. |
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| OLi_A |
| hmmm seems that as a dj, i make a very good rugby player |
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