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Why do "tranceaddict in training" ask for downloading sources? (pg. 2)
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| ceebz |
| Hey! Not all of us ask for downloading sources. :D |
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| bobba lou |
| quote: | Originally posted by arj1o1
haha good one!
no stickey it should be on the top of the forum with fontsize 72 |
Sticky or STFU!!!!!!
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| emono |
| because they're in training |
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| kid nyce |
| quote: | Originally posted by heaven scent
If there were some sort of pinned thread in the forum I think the number of people asking about it would be very low... I think its extremely twatty how some people act towards new members when they have no way of knowing they are doing anything wrong. Its not so long ago there was a pinned thread in the chillout section offering help for the EMC hub members.
I think its an excuse for people to feel big, and its completely out of order |
Your statement seems very opinionated which is good but dont take too much of a defensive position. I understand what you mean, I myself was once a newbie that goes without saying so or else I wouldnt be here right now talking about it. Im just addressing the fact that people post such topics pertaining to the hub or "getting tracks/mp3s"
On that note I ask if people are ignorant to the fact that RIAA is addressing this situation or they blantly dont know. Im aware that this issue basically exist only in the USA. But lets be realistic, people from around the world know that this exist. Please dont tell me that you have not heard of this in the news.
So maybe newbies do come into our forums unknowing that TA.com does not support filesharing. Now I question their integrity, they are on the internet and they know RIAA is addressing this issue but they still feel fine posting/requesting filesharing information. That I find obnoxious. So I look at how we (TA members) respond to this, we flame or make obvious statements that the new member doesnt know. Fine, we teach them the rules, no problem. We close their threads, delete them, whatever we please.
As a community which thrives on "music" we need to find a better way to address this requesting situation alittle better. Something to make it obvious that TA.com does not support filesharing and to not look for it on our site. Perhaps a closed sticky with a definite statement. I personally dont want to see TA turn into a downloading fiasco, we are a community about music. Supporting it, publishing it, reporting it, like any other genre of music. Fans of- type of people.
As for heaven scent's comment, I think we need to refrain from the flaming mentality and address it cordially. Trust me, we arent trying to "feel big" about it, we are just concerned that our community may be viewed suspect if we dont address these issues.
Again, please openly discuss and refrain from FLAMING. This is our community, our message board, our culture - TRANCE: A State of Mind. |
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| Qtip_00 |
| quote: | Originally posted by emono
because they're in training |
my thoughts exactly! They are new. Give em a little break. But they should be aware to read the FAQ's section. |
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| buddy |
| imo, any conversations about potentially illegal activity (drugs, file sharing, raping your neighbors dog) should be kept to pm strictly for the reason that they are potentially illegal. |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kid nyce
I just feel that when I see a new joining member ask for downloading sources, im not sure if they are ignorant to the RIAA situation or are they blantantly not knowing. Some may argue that members do join in hopes of expanding their musical horizons which is fine, but by all means please become familiar with the community prior to asking for anything. Its like the analogy I stated above. Would you walk into any supermarket or grocery store asking employees for free merchandise. vs regularly attending the same local grocery store and the employees offering a free sample of products they sell. from a marketing standpoint its legitmate but from a consumer's point of view the initiative should be taken from the prioprietors POV, not the consumers. You want the store to make the offer to show ur loyalty. Maybe my analogy is too indepth but the fact of the matter is you dont ask for something when its not offered. This leaves me with the assumption if RIAA is trying to sabotage tranceaddict.com by posting up fake request for downloadable music. tranceaddict.com doesnt support filesharing for once and for all. So please read the rules of all forums and understand that this EDM Community is about community growth and not about filesharing. You'd be surprise, some people of these boards have talent...they are only trying to express it. |
your analogy about the supermarket really doesnt make much sense....the employees at a supermarket get payed a salary from the corporation that runs it...and if they gave free items away then the store would suffer and maybe their pay...on the other hand tranceaddict is not a store and does not make profits from the sale of music....so there is a huge difference between asking here for music and going into a store and asking for free items....
And i have seen you request things on a few occasions....
Newbies are called newbies because they simply do not know where to get stuff....and they are excited about it and jump the gun and ask questions anywhere they can to find music....it doesnt make them stupid nor does it make them jerks...they just do not have certain resources, that at one point or another you did not have either... |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj tek
ive been on ta for while now but ive never downloaded anything off 'the hub' ever.. im not that desperate to hear that 'new ' that everyone + their moms are on.. i goto record stores and stay there for a while looking for tunes.. old, new, semi old, semi new, it doesnt in matter.. if its good its good.. just always seek those timeless tracks..personally, i cant speak for non djs, regular fans of the edm scene, but ppl say this n that about 'yeah, i'll buy the album when it comes out 'if' i like it..' but i wonder how many ppl outhere actually do buy them.. remember before mp3s became a phenomenonm ? you just had to take a chance on buying something.. sometimes its good, sometimes its not.. i find that way to be more pleasureable.. not knowing the tracks on the album and you pop in the cd and your just experiencing each track for the fisrt time[except for the obvious singles thats been released previously to the album].. nowadays, ppl are so freakin picky, like 'oh this track aint good enuff, he could have done so much better, this track needs a remix, i wont buy it for blah blah reasons...etc etc.' i just think that clubbers in our time are waaaay spoiled thru the internet technology and fail to apprciate what is the realy important... also another thing i in hate about mp3s are the MIS FUKING LABLED files.. i find this to be very very annoying.. and it doesnt happen from one source, it can happen from numerous areas.. from the person who ripped the vinyl, cd, etc, or to someone that just renamed it cuz they arent sure in the first place... , many ppl on TA still think the ORIGINAL mix of 2Players - Signet is the Plastic Angel remix.. like this pissed me off because then, ppl are misinformed, and it goes on and on.. it created this 'incorrect' tracks and artsists, and remixes and it will forever circle thru the net.. and its sad.. well, enuff of how i feel, continue the discussion ppl.. peace. |
REALLY?....
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=44126
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=49669
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=46348
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...&threadid=44918
Give up the elitist attitude...u DO download, u ARE on hubs, u HAVE requested tracks....
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| slinkyhead |
i have bought alot more vinyl since iv been downlaonding stuff. For example i might hear something on ASOT which i quite like. I d/l it and the more i listen to more i need it. I then trawl through online record shps and find it. My problem is there are very few records shops that sell good trance in the Bmth area so the majority of the time i use the internet. Also if sum1 is going on about a good song and i d/l it and realize its really good then il buy it.If i dont like it i wont buy it.
But the best thing bout downloading is getting live sets i love em |
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| kid nyce |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
your analogy about the supermarket really doesnt make much sense....the employees at a supermarket get payed a salary from the corporation that runs it...and if they gave free items away then the store would suffer and maybe their pay...on the other hand tranceaddict is not a store and does not make profits from the sale of music....so there is a huge difference between asking here for music and going into a store and asking for free items....
And i have seen you request things on a few occasions....
Newbies are called newbies because they simply do not know where to get stuff....and they are excited about it and jump the gun and ask questions anywhere they can to find music....it doesnt make them stupid nor does it make them jerks...they just do not have certain resources, that at one point or another you did not have either... |
read my post on the 2nd page - im not saying they are jerks or that their stupid, ur receiving my statements as if they were flame intended which they arent. Im addressing the attitude exactly like yours to me. its just funny that i am the one to happen to mention that this needs to be addressed. im asking if new comers are ignorant to REALITY news or they just dont know. Maybe they dont know but with the RIAA impacting many communities, out of us - the new users who post, are they NOT AWARE of RIAA or are they RIAA themselves. LOLS please dont misinterpret my statements.
As per requesting things? There is a difference between requesting information about sets/mp3s to gain personal knowledge, as opposed to joining TA with less that 10posts and blantantly saying WHERE CAN I GET FERRY CORSTEN@Galaxy Mixmasters. Do you follow me? Please dont criticize me, im not criticizing anyone. Remember its OPEN DISCUSSION not a FLAME war. I understand that in a discussion, the stronger opinionated people make their statements which may be received inappropriately. This is why I have repeatedly stated, please no FLAME WAR. I want the "tranceaddicts in training" to look in here and see the discussion, rather than open up a thread about elitist battling, or higher powered MEMBERS. There is no such thing here. We are a community, not a caste system. My example being DJs/Producers (professional and amateur) are on this board as well. So your elitist mentality seems to only exist in your mind.
Be clear man, cuz when your not people mistake your words for your attitude. You see dave dresden on the boards, along with airbase and others who Im not even sure is on this board. The fact of the matter is if you believe that there is an elitist mentality on these boards, then you have closed your mind to it and accepted it. Trust me if there was an elitist mentality, you wouldnt find DJs/Producers lurking the boards. We've built a great community here at TA. lets not let our attitudes clash. Remember im Pro-TA and Pro-EDM Community. I like what we got, but blantantly asking for music is a bad reflection on us, yea it happens, yea we address it, but lets ask WHY it happens, WHY we react the way we do. This way we can formulate a better solution rather open up FLAME WARS. |
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| dj tek |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Give up the elitist attitude...u DO download, u ARE on hubs, u HAVE requested tracks....
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geez man, all dated posts by me, you can notice that its all from Napster/AG days.. yes i DO and have downloaded tracks, i never said i never have..lol ive never went against my post so please dont try to prove me wrong.. the inquries in my posts u 'found' were all because of the reason that im after it on vinyl.. which most of them i got except Autumn, due to the fact that its not released yet.. i have downloaded mp3s from napster and AG and i never said i havent..i said ive never done so on the HUB. so dont in put words in my mouth or accuse me of something i havent done.. i never said it is worng, i never said to stop downloading, i just stated my own personal opinion on it, and the parts that frustrates me which is the mislabeled files on the net. what the are you all defensive, maybe youre the one that does not own on any legit cd, lp format ? if not wtf u all up on my dick for ? the amount of stuff i downloaded back in the day to the money ive spent on vinyls is not even comparable.. every gig i have i've played 100% vinyl and not because i hate mp3s so much, because i love the sound of analog.. you seem to have mad hate in your system man, wake up, thats not the way to look at life, i know youre from ny, maybe you should come by my party which happens monthly, seriously i dont know what the it up with your attitude, all i tried to do was lead some ppl in the right direction or maybe temp them to do so.. and once again, please do not accuse me of something i havent said or done. |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj tek
geez man, all dated posts by me, you can notice that its all from Napster/AG days.. yes i DO and have downloaded tracks, i never said i never have..lol ive never went against my post so please dont try to prove me wrong.. the inquries in my posts u 'found' were all because of the reason that im after it on vinyl.. which most of them i got except Autumn, due to the fact that its not released yet.. i have downloaded mp3s from napster and AG and i never said i havent..i said ive never done so on the HUB. so dont in put words in my mouth or accuse me of something i havent done.. i never said it is worng, i never said to stop downloading, i just stated my own personal opinion on it, and the parts that frustrates me which is the mislabeled files on the net. what the are you all defensive, maybe youre the one that does not own on any legit cd, lp format ? if not wtf u all up on my dick for ? the amount of stuff i downloaded back in the day to the money ive spent on vinyls is not even comparable.. every gig i have i've played 100% vinyl and not because i hate mp3s so much, because i love the sound of analog.. you seem to have mad hate in your system man, wake up, thats not the way to look at life, i know youre from ny, maybe you should come by my party which happens monthly, seriously i dont know what the it up with your attitude, all i tried to do was lead some ppl in the right direction or maybe temp them to do so.. and once again, please do not accuse me of something i havent said or done. |
fair enough....but i have nothing against u....i have no hate...sorry if u think so...but i dont...well atleast not for you:gsmile: |
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