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ATB flaming Paul van dyk on his forum! (pg. 21)
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| Syeker |
| quote: | Originally posted by hadi ******
i believe those charts were for best DJ , and not producer |
Agree on that with you. PvD is a great dj. (and yes in most of his songs you hear his stuff but you cant blame him it works perfectly in a club and even in your sofa).
I cannot say anything bad about Andre since listening to "9pm" and "Dont Stop" got me into trance (lets admit it the guy is a producing genius but i cannot say anything about his dj skills since i've never heard him play). |
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| umes23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by djSlain
i'd take Movin Melodies over Reflections ANYDAY. |
i don't have any more time to waste on anyone who can openly announce this and thing they are making a point.
atb fans, don't listen to pvd...really. stand up for taneberger and maybe he'll move you with some cheesy jingles and more envious complaints.
okay, i'll be nice... tis the season to be jolly. why don't we have atb do a christmas cd? i think he'll do a fantastic job. |
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| djr-man |
| quote: | Originally posted by umes23
okay, i'll be nice... tis the season to be jolly. why don't we have atb do a christmas cd? i think he'll do a fantastic job. |
ROFLMAO!!! |
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| Cobalt |
The only mix of Don't Stop worth anything is the X-Cabs one (Chris Cowie again). The only actual production of ATB I like on its own is In Love With The DJ. That this record would be stacked against Seven Ways and Out There And Back is simply laughable. Paul better slog off the insults after his relative bomb of Reflections, but he still has an enormous record behind him that outpaces by miles the pseudo-trance crap that popularized ATB on the scene. Seriously, can the people supporting ATB's whining provide any evidence whatsoever of this supposed skill they are defending? 9pm? Please. That's what the giggly teenagers at my local CD store called "techno music" a few years back, and still do. It's not anywhere close to serious electronica.
Aside from the poor quality, ATB is a disgrace to trance as far as America is concerned. For everyone living here, he is the man who heralded the wave of commercialized, easily consumed pop electronica which everyone and their mother called "techno". It obliterated any chance the genre had of being legitimate music in this country.
| quote: | Originally posted by umes23
okay, i'll be nice... tis the season to be jolly. why don't we have atb do a christmas cd? i think he'll do a fantastic job. |
A Very Trancy Christmas: Mixed and remixed by ATB
Oh god, the nightmares. |
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| Noree |
| Very nicely put Cobalt. May the force be with you;) |
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| mentalbarter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Toufas
u realise that anyone can add things in that dictionary dont u? |
no, i thought it was the official oxford dictionary's definitions
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cobalt
Aside from the poor quality, ATB is a disgrace to trance as far as America is concerned. For everyone living here, he is the man who heralded the wave of commercialized, easily consumed pop electronica which everyone and their mother called "techno". It obliterated any chance the genre had of being legitimate music in this country.
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Is it HIS fault he got so famous with that one track? Is it his fault when he's being associated with the "beginning of commercialized dance music" or whatever you're trying to say?
I also highly disagree on his production skills and your opnion on 9PM in particular. All I see here is the Sandstorm phenomena where a good track was overplayed and therefore seen as commercial crap. We could even say this about As The Rush Comes (and weren't you the one to defend this very trakc in the Best Of 2003 thread?). |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
I also highly disagree on his production skills and your opnion on 9PM in particular. All I see here is the Sandstorm phenomena where a good track was overplayed and therefore seen as commercial crap. We could even say this about As The Rush Comes (and weren't you the one to defend this very trakc in the Best Of 2003 thread?). |
ATRC has NEVER been as commercially succesful as Sandstorm, and it will probably never be either despite the vocals. It astounds me even today me that a cheap 303-riff can be used as a pop-hook, as most chart trance tracks usually rely on a synth hook or vocals in order to make it big. |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sand Leaper
ATRC has NEVER been as commercially succesful as Sandstorm, and it will probably never be either despite the vocals. It astounds me even today me that a cheap 303-riff can be used as a pop-hook, as most chart trance tracks usually rely on a synth hook or vocals in order to make it big. |
It was an analogy, not a direct comparison ;) |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
It was an analogy, not a direct comparison ;) |
Yea, but the success of the two tracks are still on two different levels. While ATRC has only had immense success clubwise, Sandstorm did that AND skyrocketed chartwise, which ATRC yet has to accomplish. Plus, I've never seen anyone in here call ATRC commercial crap, they just hate the tune and/or think it is overplayed to death. |
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| Toufas |
enough with this thread |
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| Cobalt |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
Is it HIS fault he got so famous with that one track? Is it his fault when he's being associated with the "beginning of commercialized dance music" or whatever you're trying to say? |
Of course it is. He beat the synths to death with the rest of his productions in attempt to duplicate it, and licensed it to every compilation of cheese out there (such as this one; check out the reviews for some entertainment). Furthermore, why did it become so popular? Because the docile American masses suddenly discovered trance? No, because it was simple and poppy enough to break through and do that.
| quote: | | I also highly disagree on his production skills and your opnion on 9PM in particular. All I see here is the Sandstorm phenomena where a good track was overplayed and therefore seen as commercial crap. We could even say this about As The Rush Comes (and weren't you the one to defend this very trakc in the Best Of 2003 thread?). |
Sandstorm wasn't altogether that bad, but it was so massively overplayed that few can manage to listen to the track again. Same goes for As The Rush Comes, on a smaller scale. Much of ATB's work, on the other hand, is intentionally accessible for listen by even the hip-hop saturated American market, because it is much more pop music than trance. Hence the reason artists such as PvD get pissed when lumped together with him. |
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