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Can men and women be just friends? (pg. 13)
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rodrico
Yeah my head, everytime I have to read them... |
does thinking hurt :( poor baby
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| ShadoWolf |
Back to the Beginning: Yes Virginia, They All Want to Bang You.
You'll note that a man has one ladder while a female has two. The man is lacking a "friends ladder." The man's ladder reflects the conventional wisdom that a man generally only wants one thing. That's because the conventional wisdom is correct. This leads us back to the conclusion that many women I have explained this to find so distasteful:
IF A MAN FINDS YOU ATTRACTIVE YOU CANNOT BE FRIENDS
Many women want to argue this point and say things like " I have lots of guy friends." Maybe. There are exactly 3 cases Intellectual Whores has identified whereby a guy and a girl can be friends:
1. The guy is gay
2. The guy does not find you attractive.
3. The guy already has a woman much higher than you on the ladder
Even Nietzsche knew this. Most guys know this intuitively. Most girls doubt. I have a challenge for all of you girls who still doubt. Pick a guy who does not meet any of the criterion on the above list that you think is your friend. Then ask yourself this question: If you were both alone at his place one night, and you excused yourself to the bathroom and came out naked and asked him to have sex with you would he:
1. Tell you he doesn't want to risk the beautiful friendship you have created with messy physical entanglements.
2. Comply
Remember this only works if you are honest with yourself. Number one is of course something that guys hear all the time. Intellectual Whores refers to it as the Kiss of Death. It is more likely that he will jump you eagerly. |
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| Orbax |
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| Rodrico |
| What in the seven levels of hell is that thing? |
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| BLuEOcEaN420 |
| nope. the only close (platonic)friendships i have w/ guys, i can count on one hand. and those only work cuz either they are gay, we have long history togeather, they live across the ocean. oh yeah its also easy to have platonic friendship w/ guys..... on the internet.:happy2: :stongue: |
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| insecurity |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
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lmao @ the fine print |
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| smallSHEEP |
Reading this thread is painful. Trancebrat please read the Ladder theory fully! It explains that for girls and guys to be friends is a perfecty possible and resonable thing, but the conditions have been posted by shadowWolf:
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
There are exactly 3 cases Intellectual Whores has identified whereby a guy and a girl can be friends:
1. The guy is gay
2. The guy does not find you attractive.
3. The guy already has a woman much higher than you on the ladder
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As I am not gay only nubers 2 and 3 apply. It took till I was 20 to fully work out the ladder theory for myself and then discovering it online was intersting as it confermed what I already knew. Nearly all the guys who have read the ladder theory have either worked it out already or see it as a revelation when discovered.
It is 100% accurate in my life so far, noone I have met has manged to deviate from this theory although some deny it until you take them through it step by step. It is also often harder for girls to grasp as they are not often sure which guy friends fancy them etc.
I have wasted my years of my life being friends with girls I fancied (who didn't fancy me back) and only now do I see the harm it was doing to me. I have some really close girls as friends but I do not fancy them in any way. I just don't find them physically attractive. It allows you to fool around without feeling pressured by sexual feeling etc. I know that I could not possibly become very good friends with someone who was more attractive than my gf (although that not very likely ;) ) just like the ladder states.
I truly beieve the ladder should be handed out to the guys at school in sex education lessons heh, it would makes people's teenage years a lot simpler lol. :p
A girl who usually has many guy friends who are 'true friends' are often not hugely attractive but are usually nice people who are fun to be around. Sorry but It has to be said. (Fag hags don't count, they can be hot) Some very hot girls also have guy friends but a large portion will actually fancy them secretly although the girl may not realise this. The guys will eventally get fustrated that they can't get with the girl however and move on. (The girl thinks they are no longer frinds for other reasons though!) I have seen this many times.
Often if a guy is going out with someone hot and breaks up with them, girls lower down the ladder who have always been 'just friends' (i.e. a bit less hot the the gf) with often find themselves being come onto by the guy and this can often confuse them. Again I have seen this happen many a time. Girls, don't be confused, read the ladder theory! :rolleyes: |
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| Lira |
Answered the questions :)
Yes, I do believe in the friendship of men and women, although I realise most of difficulty is imposed by the man. If I wanted to shag every attractive girl I'm friends with...
... God, would I be sore? :p |
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| SpecialEd |
I honestly don't think most guy and girl friendships can stay that way for long periods of time. One or the other usually becomes attracted and human nature takes place.
Maybe only a few rules apply to this:
1) If either of the male or female was homosexual. Most likely the Male.
2) If it's a business relationship.
3) If it's based on a free-love but no real feelings relationships(not too rare, I've seen alot of them.) Meaning, party guy/party girl kind of deal, but it doesn't go anywhere sexual. It's just for hooking up each other with ur friends or meeting new people. |
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| PinkLights |
| quote: | Originally posted by sym
The point is, at some point, at some time one of the parties in the friendship has thought, or is thinking about the other in a sexual fashion. So, therefore the relationship can never be truely just friendly. Sex always comes into it in some way, shape or form. |
Ok, now we are talking about opposite sex friendships/attractions. What about same sex?? If I were to find one of my female friends attractive, then our "friendshop" cud never be "true"??? |
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| dj_mdma |
| quote: | Originally posted by PinkLights
Ok, now we are talking about opposite sex friendships/attractions. What about same sex?? If I were to find one of my female friends attractive, then our "friendshop" cud never be "true"??? |
:rolleyes:
if you suddenly became a lesbian, the you can apply the ladder theory to this imaginary scenario, and you would be in the man's shoes. |
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| KandyKid_420 |
| No, it does not work, I've tried it a few times, I always still feel atracted to the person, even moreso if I had sexual relations with that person, it just doesn't work, and if people say it works, obviously, they haven't been in that situation. |
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