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Can men and women be just friends? (pg. 4)
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| trancebrat |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranc3
Wait....so when you're not in a relationship you're open to orgies and such? |
She's talking about flings. Duh! :tongue2
Why...are you interested in an orgy? |
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| igottaknow |
Harry: You realise of course that we can never be friends.
Sally: Why not?
Harry: What I'm saying is... and this is not a come-on in
any way, shape or form, is that men and women can't be friends
because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally: That's not true, I have a number of men friends and
there's is no sex involved.
Harry: No you don't.
Sally: Yes I do.
Harry: You only think you do.
Sally: You're saying I'm having sex with these men without
my knowledge?
Harry: No, what I'm saying is they all want to have sex
with you.
Sally: They do not.
Harry: Do too.
Sally: How do you know?
Harry: Because no man can be friends with a woman he finds
attractive, he always wants to have sex with her.
Sally: So you're saying that a man can be friends with a
woman he finds unattractive.
Harry: Nuh, you pretty much wanna nail'em too.
Sally: What if they don't want to have sex with you?
Harry: Doesn't matter, because the sex thing is already
out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end
of the story.
Sally: Well I guess we're not going to be friends then.
Harry: Guess not.
Sally: That's too bad. You are the only person I knew
in New York.
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Harry: Would you like to have dinner?(Sally looks over)
Harry: Just friends.
Sally: I thought you didn't believe men and women could
be friends.
Harry: When did I say that?
Sally: On the ride to New York.
Harry: No no no no, I never said that.(Harry pauses, thinks.)
Yes, that's right, they can't be friends. Unless both of them are involved with other people then they can. This is an amendment to the earlier rule, if the two people are in relationships, the pressure of possibilty of involvement is lifted.
(Pauses)
That doesn't work either because what happens then is the
person you're involved with can't understand why you need to be
friends with the person you're just friends with. Like it means something
is missing from their relationship and "why do you have to go outside
to get it?".
Then when you say, "no no no no, it's not true nothing's missing from
the relationship", the person you're involved with then accuses you
of being secretly attracted to the person you're just friends with, which
we probably are, I mean, come on, who the hell are we kidding, let's face it,
which brings us back to the earlier rule before the amendment which
is men and women can't be friends, so where does that leave us? |
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| Tranc3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancebrat
She's talking about flings. Duh! :tongue2
Why...are you interested in an orgy? |
Multiple flings? At the same time?
Haha no I just thought of the most sexually promiscuous thing I could think of. |
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| Floorfiller |
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!
i returned hehehe...
ok here is my opinion on the matter...
In order to be friends with someone you must have some sort of connection with that person. without some level of attraction to a person albeit personality, physical attraction, or the like...there is nothing to promote the founding of a relationship. even if that attraction is personality based, there is some sexual attraction at a subconscious level, therefore women and men cannot be friends without some level of sexual attraction. |
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| trancebrat |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!!
i returned hehehe...
ok here is my opinion on the matter...
In order to be friends with someone you must have some sort of connection with that person. without some level of attraction to a person albeit personality, physical attraction, or the like...there is nothing to promote the founding of a relationship. even if that attraction is personality based, there is some sexual attraction at a subconscious level. |
I am friends with guys that I would never sleep with...not in a million years! I am a very visual person and if I'm not somewhat stimulated visually then you can forget the rest. Some of my friends are my friends because they are good people and they have a huge heart...some make me laugh...doesn't mean I would ever want to them. :nervous: |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancebrat
I am friends with guys that I would never sleep with...not in a million years! I am a very visual person and if I'm not somewhat stimulated visually then you can forget the rest. Some of my friends are my friends because they are good people and they have a huge heart...some make me laugh...doesn't mean I would ever want to them. :nervous: |
just because you can't find that realization, doesn't mean that it isn't there...its suppressed ;) |
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| trancebrat |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
just because you can't find that realization, doesn't mean that it isn't there...its suppressed ;) |
Um...I don't think so! You guys are crazy! |
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| Tranc3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancebrat
I am friends with guys that I would never sleep with...not in a million years! I am a very visual person and if I'm not somewhat stimulated visually then you can forget the rest. Some of my friends are my friends because they are good people and they have a huge heart...some make me laugh...doesn't mean I would ever want to them. :nervous: |
Not that I believe in it, but what you just said supports the ladder theory 100% |
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| Trancer85 |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancebrat
I am friends with guys that I would never sleep with...not in a million years! I am a very visual person and if I'm not somewhat stimulated visually then you can forget the rest. Some of my friends are my friends because they are good people and they have a huge heart...some make me laugh...doesn't mean I would ever want to them. :nervous: |
therefore, the ladder theory is correct...a girl has two ladders, one is the friend's ladder, the other is the real ladder. you seem to have 2 ladders just like other females.:stongue: |
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| Massive84 |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancebrat
Um...I don't think so! You guys are crazy! |
but it was very obvious, males say no, female say yes. i think if you go around the world asking the same question the answer ratio will be probably the same male: no, females: yes
personally, i think its harder for guys to be great buddies with a girl, for females maybe thats an other story..for me i admitt, its hard to imagine for me that i can be best friends with a girl, not that i don't want or can't hang out with them, it's just ..i rather watch a movie with my male friends, play football or basket ball with them, go somewhere sit a bit smoke or talk, going on vacation or clubbing.
edit female company is always welcome of cource :D |
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| Orbax |
TB i didnt say your male friends didnt respect you. I have some quite attractive lady friends as well. Im saying they dont respect you as much as they respect themselves and they dont respect you as much as they would their partner. Its a relative statement. Vast quantities of respect can be present. Im just saying that if they really respected you that much, theyd try to date you.
Like I said, women can be friends with guys, but guys cant be friends with women who are to close to their ladder rung or below their expected runglevel for partners. |
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| trancebrat |
| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
TB i didnt say your male friends didnt respect you. I have some quite attractive lady friends as well. Im saying they dont respect you as much as they respect themselves and they dont respect you as much as they would their partner. Its a relative statement. Vast quantities of respect can be present. Im just saying that if they really respected you that much, theyd try to date you.
Like I said, women can be friends with guys, but guys cant be friends with women who are to close to their ladder rung or below their expected runglevel for partners. |
What if they tried to date me and I wasn't interested?
I totally disagree. Your basically calling all men shallow. If all of you agree to that then you are all crazy. |
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