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Portugal - England (Quarterfinals, 24 june) (pg. 30)
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| DJ.MD |
Did you think Ibrahimovics goal was legit vs. Italy. He was going after the ball and got in the goalies way.
It would be a political nightmare for them to say yes it should have been a goal. They are going to support him even though it is wrong. You are always going to support your own. |
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| RenderedDream |
| bah.politics is crap |
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| evil_bastard |
| quote: | Originally posted by RenderedDream
if you read the complete article, you'll learn that they did a special press meeting were they explained the reasons it was disallowed..i wouldn't think the press would buy this argument "well, it was disallowed to get portugal even".. |
I don't think anyone was expecting UEFA to come out and say their referee had got it wrong and their competition had therefore been tainted by controversy. Why would they do that? They did however promptly rule him out of the final after that game.
David Elleray, former top Premiership and international referee and known for his strict application of the rules, put it best in The Times:
| quote: | When I first saw the incident, I could understand why Meier had disallowed the goal, but instinctively I felt that it was a harsh decision. Goalkeepers are the most protected species of footballer. In this country, they are cosseted but not to the extent that they are abroad, where they are effectively “untouchable”. I am sure that Campbell’s goal would have stood in most English matches but, on the Continent, the chances of it being disallowed were high.
Meier gave an honest “continental” decision but replays clearly show that he was wrong. The ball comes back off the crossbar high in the air and is almost directly above Terry. Terry jumps vertically but Ricardo jumps diagonally towards the ball — in effect, entering Terry’s space. The resulting contact is caused by Ricardo jumping into Terry and not the other way around.
Terry’s arm seems to be across Ricardo preventing him from jumping but, again, closer examination shows that this is not Terry’s fault. Ricardo jumps fractionally after Terry and jumps from underneath Terry into the gap between his arm and body, causing Terry’s arm to appear to be blocking him. |
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| RenderedDream |
| hum, legal goal or not, we were also robbed like this on the euro2000, so we understand english fans, but hey, everybody has his turn |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by RenderedDream
hum, legal goal or not, we were also robbed like this on the euro2000, so we understand english fans, but hey, everybody has his turn |
this happens to England too often for it to be their turn. Maradonna's Hand of God goal comes to mind in 1986 (punched the ball into the net), and of course Sol's disallowed goal in 98 and now 2004 on the exact same play. It seems a little suspicious...and my grandpa has been watching England since the early 50's and says it's almost always been this way. |
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| The Darklord |
Like the 3rd goal of the WCH '66, that a lot of people still think that it didn't go in? But then again, that's past... isn't it?
*puts on flame suit* |
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| evil_bastard |
| quote: | Originally posted by The Darklord
Like the 3rd goal of the WCH '66, that a lot of people still think that it didn't go in? But then again, that's past... isn't it? |
I always find it funny when people have to go back to 1966 (38 years ago) to point the finger back at England. That was 18 years before I was born, even my dad was just a kid then. What's your point?!
England probably have suffered more than most, but I bet there are other nations who could list a similar catalogue of bad decisions against them in international tournaments. |
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by evil_bastard
That was 18 years before I was born, even my dad was just a kid then. What's your point?!
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maybe counter-argue at the supposed fact that england is being prejudiced since the early 50's? |
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| evil_bastard |
| The fact you have to go back 38 years in history to find your counter-argument tells its own story. |
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
and my grandpa has been watching England since the early 50's and says it's almost always been this way. |
The fact he had to go back 54 years in history to find the first argument tells its own story. |
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| benfica88 |
| quote: | Originally posted by evil_bastard
The fact you have to go back 38 years in history to find your counter-argument tells its own story. |
Didn't BBC make a 3-d rendering of the goal a couple of years ago to prove that it was still a goal... |
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| isoterra |
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
The fact he had to go back 54 years in history to find the first argument tells its own story. |
SINCE the early 50s. That's not going back 54 years to find an argument, that's finding multiple arguments spread from back then right up to this present day. |
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