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Ontario BANS Smoking!! (pg. 8)
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
UNLESS instead of smoking in the clubs, all smokers simply DO NOT GO TO ANY CLUBS OR BARS for JUST ONE WEEKEND in the summer time, just to make a point, just one weekend ( i know this will never happen, but just imagine....) |
You know what? I would LOVE to see that happen. I don't agree with the either and what you're talking about is EXACTLY the kind of protest that I think should be happening.
Sadly, most of these people, instead of doing what you say, are just going to continue to go to the clubs and be rude bastards and light up inside. |
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| Xavier Moriarty |
| quote: | | Sadly, most of these people, instead of doing what you say, are just going to continue to go to the clubs and be rude bastards and light up inside. |
you dont understand.
you use all these words, making all these arguments but u dont understand.
its not rude, it's the NEED, you're a non smoker so u have no idea how is it to push your way thru 500 people just to go outside on a minus "holy my ears are gonna fall off, and im gonna get pneumonia" to have a smoke, then go back again, then do it again, and again.....
and now we wont have that either.
and if nobody cares (bouncers etc) and right next to me 5 guys are doing lines of K and some sick is giving some girl a sip of G-d water and everybody is poppin e, i should feel bad for having 5-6 smokes during 4-10 hour party???
please, dont tell me "u can choose, quit", i tried and until they make selling smokes illegal i dont think i'll be able to do it.
its simple, make them illegal, it's gonna be good for you, its gonna be good for me right?????
but its not that simple.
believe me, law is wrong in this case |
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| Euphorica |
if you cant quit yourself get some help.Obviously some can quit easier then others.
thing with the other drugs is, you are not effected by it. meaning, the guy doing lines doesnt throw a handful in your face etc but with smoking that goes all over the place not giving others the right to not do it since you have basically forced it apon them.
I agree with this law and hope more are put forward to stop the stupid habit. It was the tobacco companies and gov that ed us over with mass producing this and marketing it as a good thing. and imo they ahve every right to try and stop it now . |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Swamper
w00t this is entertaining |
You have been posting a lot more recently :)
I like it cause your posts are often very humorous! |
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| ++ EGO ++ |
lol!
you people need some serious santa hats customly designed for your avs. |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by itikia
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OMG I can't believe you beat Jayx1 to it. :stongue: |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by ++ EGO ++
lol!
you people need some serious santa hats customly designed for your avs. |
yea? no shiznit
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by ++ EGO ++
lol!
you people need some serious santa hats customly designed for your avs. |
Are you saying my santa hat sucks?
Cause if that's what your saying....
I know :tongue2 |
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| Slag |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Are you saying my santa hat sucks?
Cause if that's what your saying....
I know :tongue2 |
To be honest, it kinda looks like a sock turned sideways :P |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Prove it Graham, because I think you're full of . And you have to also prove that it's ONLY the crime syndicates that make drugs, because even IF they make a huge profit, if they only sell 10% of the drugs then there is no reliable evidence that the drugs "Mr. X" buys is going to any of those syndicates.
I agree, it's a smoking patio. What I'm talking about is your response that you are simply going to smoke inside the club, where it is clearly defined as a NO-SMOKING area. If you want to go out on the patio and smoke even if it's illegal, I don't care, I only care if you do it INSIDE because they've made it illegal OUTSIDE.
Giving money to a dealer is not supporting organized crime. Again you rely on this junk mythology that every dollar spent on drugs goes to crime syndicates. It's not true! If you think it is, PROVE IT.
And even if you prove it, it's hardly analogous to smoking because the "violence" committed by those "crime syndicates" are SO FAR REMOVED from the actual deal. When you smoke in a crowded club, you are BLOWING TOXIC FUMES DIRECTLY DOWN SOMEONE'S THROAT.
And you STILL have yet to address the analogy with speeding on a highway, which is A LOT closer to the actual issue than drug dealing. :rolleyes: You talk to me about technicalities, well YOU brought up this whole irrelevant drug subject and started introducing the technicalities of how you're "supporting organized crime". Get off it!
Why don't you address the arguments *I* made, instead of creating your own straw-man arguments and getting me to debate those?
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Anyway, as much as I'd love to spend all night arguing about this, I have to work tomorrow, so I'll just sum it up:
When you smoke in a crowded club, you are doing something that directly harms others. Not something that could potentially harm others, not something that could potentially help someone else to harm others, but something that DIRECTLY harms others. Not doing it "often" is not an excuse to be doing it at all.
If you have a problem a law, then protest it the way laws are supposed to be protested in a democratic society. To say that it's not worth your time to protest, and you're just going to break the law because you don't do it very often, is nothing more than pure laziness and disrespect for authority.
Civil disobedience is understandable when all other means of protest have been exhausted (our traffic laws and drug laws aren't going anywhere anytime soon), but when someone's IMMEDIATE response to a law is " that, I'm going to do it anyway", then one has to wonder about that person's true motivations. |
dig.. i miss ur posts on cor.. always have something good to say and add to threads..
wow that sounded ghey.. :wtf: it wasnt meant to be :stongue: |
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| ++ EGO ++ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Slag
To be honest, it kinda looks like a sock turned sideways :P |
don't be mean dude...
it's obviously italy in christmas spirit.
heh, jokiiinnnggg. They're all awesome, even yours emry. |
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| ++ EGO ++ |
oh yeah and uhm...
smoking is bad. |
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