Originally posted by George Smiley
I have never said Skeik Mohammed did not plan the attacks (he was the "rogue terrorist group" I refer to - I assumed (perhaps incorrectly as I will admit) that some of the hijackers were affiliated with Sheik Mohammed)
Well that is a HUGE mistake on your part.
But Sheik Mohammed WAS the number 3 guy of AL Qaeda...so that means Al Qaeda was responsible for the attacks.
I cant beleive this is even being debated in 2005..whether ot not Al Qaeda was behind 9.11 or not...this is so absurd.:rolleyes:
tiesto14
Whats next?
Al Qaeda wasnt behind Khobar Towers?
George Smiley
Hey what happened to that thread you just started in PDD? It just vanished! But dont worry I managed to salvage it...
Could you do me a favour, seeing as you are saying I am wrong and go to that thread and watch that film? It would look awfully bad on your behalf if you didn't, what with you accusing me of talking an all wouldn't it? If you refuse to watch it it just looks like you are resigned to losing the argument...
MisterOpus1
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Originally posted by tiesto14
Opus...we both know Bin Laden was behind it...:rolleyes:
BIN LADEN
We calculated in advance the number of casualties from the enemy, who would be killed based on the position of the tower. We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors. I was the most optimistic of them all. (...Inaudible...) Due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. This is all that we had hoped for. (full text of the tape transcript).
Well I guess I had always assumed as much, but careful scrutiny is always best before coming to a conclusion on the matter. Thanks for pointing this out, though - I had forgotten about this tape, which is seemingly pretty evident.
But hey, what would I be without a little tin-foil hat theories, just to get your goat?:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Well I guess I had always assumed as much, but careful scrutiny is always best before coming to a conclusion on the matter. Thanks for pointing this out, though - I had forgotten about this tape, which is seemingly pretty evident.
But hey, what would I be without a little tin-foil hat theories, just to get your goat?:
sssssshhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! you hear that? I think it is a black helicopter on whisper mode.:nervous:
George Smiley
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Originally posted by Nou
You cant argue with this guy people, he is from NYC... alot were pig headed before 9-11 and now after they are blinded by rage from what happened to their city (rightfuly so, but still, come on use some logic sometimes).
Yea you can! You know when you have won the argument when he makes statements which others refute then you never hear from him again!
tiesto14
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Originally posted by Nou
You cant argue with this guy people, he is from NYC... alot were pig headed before 9-11 and now after they are blinded by rage from what happened to their city (rightfuly so, but still, come on use some logic sometimes).
if using logic means saying Bin Laden wasnt behind 9.11 or saying what George SMiley is saying then i choose to be illogical.
I have a feeling this is the same George SMiley who used to have a boycot against America...under a different name years ago....if it is i will tell why that boycott was a JOKE>:haha:
tiesto14
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Originally posted by George Smiley
Yea you can! You know when you have won the argument when he makes statements which others refute then you never hear from him again!
never hear from me again?...i am still here and i have posted numerous links to sources that back me up...all you have posted is a Road To Tyranny michael moore howard zinn noam chomsky type video that only a very distrubed conspiracy chasing individual like yourself would beleive.
George Smiley
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Originally posted by tiesto14
never hear from me again?...i am still here and i have posted numerous links to sources that back me up...all you have posted is a Road To Tyranny michael moore howard zinn noam chomsky type video that only a very distrubed conspiracy chasing individual like yourself would beleive.
I've never read anything of Michael Moore and doubt I ever will (he's not really to my liking)
I own two Chomsky books but have not read them yet
the documentary I posted is a very highly regarded documentary by the BBC (one of the most prestigious news companies in the world) and as such is not gonna be full of stupid conspiracies (like you are trying to make out)
I'm not a conspiracy nut who thinks a missile hit the Pentagon or exposives demolished the Twin Towers and I think those theories are
What I am trying to argue is the nature of al-Qaida, which I do not believe is like what our governments tell us to believe. I really do suggest you go and find yourself a copy of Jason Burke's book "Al-Qaida: The true story of radical Islam" and read it (have you done any research on al-Qaida btw?) That book is extremely highly regarded in academic circles and Burke is considered one of the foremost experts on al-Qaida (which you, are not)
Anyway, my comments above were in relation to the thread where you claimed bucket loads more people (asylum seekers) seek refuge in the US than anywhere else in the world, and following that were a few posts refuting that, and, funnily enuf, you haven't shown your face since...:p
George Smiley
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Originally posted by tiesto14
if using logic means saying Bin Laden wasnt behind 9.11 or saying what George SMiley is saying then i choose to be illogical.
I have a feeling this is the same George SMiley who used to have a boycot against America...under a different name years ago....if it is i will tell why that boycott was a JOKE>:haha:
Your twisting words to make yourself look good - quite pathetic!
You are trying to create the impression that I have claimed bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11 - which is bollox cos I have never made such a claim
The sad thing is, you are basing your arguments on the belief that I DID say bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11 and that is why you appear incapable of carrying on this debate in an intelligent manner...
Nell
tiesto14 is 14 years old, cut him some slack :)
tiesto14
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Originally posted by Nell
tiesto14 is 14 years old, cut him some slack :)
no i was 14 when i joined in 2001...i am now 18.:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
j/k..reason i use tiesto14 is cus i liked tiesto and "14" is my favorite number..iw as born on April 14th:D
