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Review : Freedom II (pg. 5)
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| TheVrk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
Versatility should not be used as an excuse to deliver a piss poor set. One of the things that differentiates a good DJ from a brilliant one is their ability to read a room, and to give the room the type of sound they want. Not just stand there and drop a set you want to push... |
I TOTALLY agree....
Have been a Deep Dish fan for a long time and its not a secret
that they CAN be boring - especially in recent years.
Just too bad it seems they cant bring their incredible sets
to Toronto like thet do to Montreal where they are almost ALWAYS good |
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| mindspin |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
One of the things that differentiates a good DJ from a brilliant one is their ability to read a room, and to give the room the type of sound they want. Not just stand there and drop a set you want to push...
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what the guv crowd wants at 8am is not what they're going to get from deep dish......it's a pretty simple read if you ask me, play the dirtiest, hardest hitting beats you have.....i highly highly doubt that deep dish is going to lower themselves to playing these types of tracks so that they can please the majority of the crowd who are simply at guv to disconnect themselves from reality. when most ppl think of guv they think of crazy, hard hitting trance being dropped right until close...and alot of ppl go to guv these days because of this....you're telling me all the 40 year old cracked out asians who dance around like their walking through a swamp care what dj is playing?? bottom line, deep dish need to stop spinning at guv....its not the right room and right crowd for them.....guarenteed if you put them somewhere like boa or the docks and they played the same set....the crowd would be 100x better and they'd be getting way better reviews......
aside from all of this....i will glady admit that they dropped 3 or 4 TERRIBLE tracks in a row super close to close.....they were getting way too pissed with everything going on.....sharam even walked over to close the side doors....and kept asking for them to be closed.....i personally think they did this purposely to kill the crowd so that they could get the out of there....because they definately weren't getting the respect they deserved from the crowd that nite..... |
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| samhouse |
I'm not sure where most of the posts in this thread are coming from...
Deep Dish in my opinion were great....slow at first but really really good. Nothing wrong with trippy, proggy house from time to time...Enjoy it for what it is...good music mixed almost flawlessly...tsk tsk SHaram...
and wtf was up with Ali..he looked whacked when we left for the zone at 8am. |
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| DigitalMP |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
Stop making excuses for Deepdish. Were you even there ? Did you actually hear some of their set or are you just telling us something we alreayd know ? :rolleyes: |
- making excuses for them
+ telling whiney bitches to shut the up
I think Deep Dish is a dynamic duo, but I wouldn't go see them unless there was no other house option. I've liked what they gave me two times I saw them, and didn't like their set at LOL last year. I know what they're capable of, with respect to my liking, but I'm also aware of the opposite.
If I was there, I would have rocked Skylark then moved up to the Drink for Manzone & Strong and Addy. I would have also dropped down to check out Deep Dish, but being fully aware of how proggy and techy they can get, I aslo would not have assumed I missed the greatest set TO has ever heard.
Additionally, I <3 GU-025, and can't give GU-021 another listen.
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
Versatility should not be used as an excuse to deliver a piss poor set. One of the things that differentiates a good DJ from a brilliant one is their ability to read a room, and to give the room the type of sound they want. Not just stand there and drop a set you want to push...
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The only thing piss poor about this thread was naive clubbers who are so oblivious to assume that Deep Dish should only spin what you (the naive clubber) likes.
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
I wouldn't dream of telling a tag team as accomplished as Deepdish what to play, but when i hear a track with minimal elements to it play out for 5 minutes (and yes...it was 5 minutes because i actually counted the number of bars that were repeating !) then i have to wonder why they agreed to do a 8 hour set. Hell, just drop a 2 hour set and move along. Keeping a crowd interested in a set for that duration requires something special, and as much as i've believed that DD have been capable of doing that in the past, the type of music they are pushing these days simply doesn't cut it.
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Artists capable of crossing genres as Deep Dish and Danny T are will take you on a journey that is filled with ups and downs. The last two times Danny did it in TO, it was loudly verberated after the fact. Deep Dish was very proggy at LOL, and then got really techy. Not my style, but I know people liked it because the techno artists didn't show up.
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
Finally. People have a right to bitch if they were present at a party. Paid money to be entartained and left feeling short changed. Now, although i can't say i was disappointed with Freedom. I will post an honest review and say they (DD) were the major dissapointment of an otherwise FANTASTIC night of partying.
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If you're going to bitch, at least have half an idea of what you're bitching about.
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
For anyone to step into a review thread and tell people not to bitch, and not to go see a 'versatile' dj if you can't rock out to them is ing ridiculous ! Not all of us are dj-whores who gratefully lap up everything that's spit down our throats and then flash a toothy grin and say 'thank you sir, can i have some more'... :toothless
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Again, I choose not to make artists like Deep Dish and Danny my priority, simply because I cannot expect that they will suit my tastes. Desyn Masiello, Antoine Clamaran, Steve Lawler, and yes, even DJ Tiesto will ALL suit my tastes when I go to see them because I KNOW they will bring the (sub-)genre in which they specialize. I would add Manzone & Strong, Addy, Deko-ze, and Paranoid Jack to that list, but seriously...even my parents know that.
I'll just add that someone who has the clubbing experience that you have should know very well what a DJ might spin. All I've said is similar to asking you if Mark will knock your socks off every night you see him. Mark is an EXCELLENT DJ (out of mouth), but does he always drop tracks that I want to hear? No. Does he always drop tracks that YOU want to hear? I would imagine not. But if I hit the Drink on a Saturday night, or the Zone anywhere from 6a-2p (Addy->Deko-ze) on a Sunday morning, I KNOW I'll be in ing heaven. Those DJs just don't cross genres that much in those time slots.
If you like bangin, drummy, filtered house (i.e. Clamaran's remix of Money Shot, Feel It w/ Lulu Hughes), be at Republik next Saturday.
If you like melodic, somewhat cheesy trance, with a few classics mixed in, go see Tiesto for Canada Day.
If you like tech-house, Deep Dish or Mark Oliver can really bring this nice, but because they did once, I will not venture to assume that they will bring it every time I see them. Although, I would have a better CHANCE at hearing some sick tech-house by seeing Carl Cox.
Do you see where I'm coming from? I'm not ALL about Deep Dish, I'm just well aware what a versatile DJ can do, so I'm careful not to predict what they will spin, and I know I'll take my chances if they sometimes spin a genre that I might not want to hear. |
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| Kytracid |
Ok, I admit I've spent more then nuff time talking about Deepdish...but that's only because i expected quite a lot from them. I regard DD as a very talented duo, and i admit, i wasn't there at the peak time when they were probably destroying the Guv. What i heard towards the end might have been an attempt at thinning the herd...I'm not sure. All i know is that it boring as far as i'm concerned, and not the Deepdish that I remember.
This is a review thread. You are expected to be honest with your opinoion. That's my 2 cents on the matter...if people enjoyed their set, i'm glad. I know there were about 2000 people still rocking to the beat when i left at 8:45 -- so obviously they were digging it.
Just not my cuppa -- that's all. |
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| Kytracid |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigitalMP
blah blah blah blah blah |
*yawn* I read the first line. Realized you weren't there. Knew I was going to have to tell you to shut the up ! :) |
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| DigitalMP |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
*yawn* I read the first line. Realized you weren't there. Knew I was going to have to tell you to shut the up ! :) |
Sorry to hear that. I think I made some pretty good points.
Don't be so e-badass. |
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| mindspin |
just one more point i'd like to add.....if you want to get an idea of what you're going to hear deep dish spin....download a set they've spun within the last two months.....what deep dish played on sunday nite was quite similar to their 7.5 hour tribehouse nuess set they spun in march.....at least 20 tracks from this set were spun at guv....and thats only what i can remember from the time i actually spent in the main room......
another thing.....was there a bad batch going around at guv or something?? i'm sure anyone who was there knows what im talking about.....bottom of the stairs...owner of a lonely heart in the drink.... |
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| Kytracid |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigitalMP
Sorry to hear that. I think I made some pretty good points.
Don't be so e-badass. |
Ok, this is my final response to you or to anyone else who can't swallow the fact that this thread represents the opinions of people who were actually at the event, not the arm chair fans who want to believe their idols can do no wrong.
First off, I didn't go to see Deepdish. I went for the breaks. I only went to check out Deepdish because i wanted to see what type of sound they were pushing. I'm sorry if i hurt your feelings by stating they were boring...here's a tissue, soak up the tears and try to understand that it's one mans opinion.
The naive clubber comment. Was that supposed to get a rise out of me ...or do you expect me to respond by giving you my clubbing credentials ? Ok fine...My first experience hearing the sounds of Deepdish was in 99 when they were guest at DT's B yourself nite at Vinyl...they were awesome on that nite. DT said so himself as he was dancing in the crowd. They were pushing the hot underground NYC dark house sounds that would later go on to earn them acclaim with remixes of tracks like "Barberella", "Dusted" and "Sexual". They're set on that day was progressive and yet dynamic as well. The mixes were short, they were creative and when you consider they were playing in Danny T's backyard you know they were doing all the right things when the man himself was out front with his fans dancing up a storm to their beats.
Ok, so move on 5-6 years and we have sunday where the track selection wasn't great (fine...that's a matter of taste, maybe i'm the only who wasn't digging it). Next, we have the length of each track, and how long it was being played before the next one was introduced. Now I'm not joking when i said i was counting the bars, because i was...and this only because i couldn't believe it was Deepdish on the decks. something must have been terribly wrong because it seemed they were intent on getting people to leave with the length that one track would take...for gods sake, a progressive track is 8+ minutes for a reason. The last 2/3 minutes is supposed to be where a DJ starts mixing it, working their magic, getting the crowd hyped up for to come...there was none of that in this set. The track would go on and on and then something equally monotonous would get mixed in. Yes, it was seemless mixing...seemless mixing of two equally boring tracks !
Now it might seem like i'm trashing Deepdish like i trashed Tiesto a few days back, but there's a difference. I respect Deepdish for what they have accomplished, and in all honesty i wasn't present when they were probably dropping the bombs. Still...I expect the last 2 half hours of a set to include a climax to a 8 hour journey, not a lazy effort at winding down the night and getting the druggy clubbers out the door. Excuse me for actually thinking that world famous, Grammy winning Deepdish would actually end on a high note. :rolleyes:
Finally -- "don't be so e-badass"....well, we can't all be pimped out, G'd out, Gino thugs who scandalize new york on the weekdays and then come takeover the T.dot on the weekend. Sorry, but being an e-badass is the best i can do. :)
Naive, whinny clubber Sid, checking out... |
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| bluE_Neon |
Haha, I didn't attend this party but it's sad to hear DD put out a bad performance. From the reviews, the crowd must of been really bad, no-one dancing, people bumping into each other, etc. That's typical for a DD party nowadays or is it just the GUV attitude?
I've seen them twice before, 1 performance was also for Victoria Day weekend back in 02', it was OK, the other time it was for the GU Toronto party (Dec 02) and that night was insanely mad :) DD are a hit & miss these days and most of their sets are deep but insanely mellow too. I don't know, I'm not a DD fanatic but I'm not too keened on seeing them anytime soon. I respect the boys as producers/remixers but as DJ's they aren't the best or on the top of the business. |
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| Cataclysmic |
I stayed in the Orange room all night. The beats were amazing. Anyone who missed Myagi's live performance definitely missed out huge. This guy is the most talented local we have, and it seems as though a lot of people don't know his name. Check him out at Madbar on Wednesday night.
Not sure why so many people were impressed with Freeland. He essentially played the same set he always does, nothing wrong with it, just not very impressive.
Rennie Pilgrem destroyed the Orange Room. That's one of the better breaks sets I've heard. Rennie truly is the God Father of Breaks.
Great party. |
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| DJ El Kay Dee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cataclysmic
Rennie truly is the God Father of Breaks.
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PERIOD!!!!
who was the guy after him??was taht Myagi??cos that guy did alot of looping and sampling..VERY impressive |
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