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Utah Rave Ends in Tears (pg. 6)
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StereoPrincess
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
That said, busting kids for possesion does not necessitate para-military troops storming the party beating the kids and shutting the entire thing down. The concern most of us are raising is the method the police employed to stage this "raid".


scare tactics are a great tool.
Moral Hazard
Indeed, so is torture, summary execution, and systemic oppression, however, the US has a constitution that does not allow such things.
Now, I wasn't there so I can't speak to the validity of the claims being made, however, if those that can be seen being beaten - very clearly - in the video clip were not directly and physically threatening the safety of the officer involved then the beating may be uncalled for.... that's all.
starsearcher
quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
however, if those that can be seen being beaten - very clearly - in the video clip were not directly and physically threatening the safety of the officer involved then the beating may be uncalled for.... that's all.


See that's exactly what I meant by saying they have no case against the officers because the camera only goes to the people "being beaten" after they are already on the ground and surrounded. Therefore, you have no idea what these people did prior to the officer's attack. Meaning there's no concrete evidence and it's one person's word against another's...
TrueToTheCrew
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Originally posted by The Highroller
That was quite the disgusting sight. I hope all of our USTA friends know about this and are doing something about it.


I heard the moderators from USTA were able to get a meeting with bush at the white house to hammer out a plan.
Moral Hazard
quote:
Originally posted by starsearcher
See that's exactly what I meant by saying they have no case against the officers because the camera only goes to the people "being beaten" after they are already on the ground and surrounded. Therefore, you have no idea what these people did prior to the officer's attack. Meaning there's no concrete evidence and it's one person's word against another's...


Plus the "victim" happens to be a depraved drug addict that was attending one of those horrible evil raves.... Of course the police had to beat him, he was probably masturbating while doing lines of coke off an AK-47 he had just used to pull a drive-by shooting at a nursery school full of children that were the products of his serial rapes that follow every time he goes to a rave. Not very creditable compared to a god fearing police officer.

All kidding aside, you're right the tape is not good evidence.
starsearcher
quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Plus the "victim" happens to be a depraved drug addict that was attending one of those horrible evil raves.... Of course the police had to beat him, he was probably masturbating while doing lines of coke off an AK-47 he had just used to pull a drive-by shooting at a nursery school full of children that were the products of his serial rapes that follow every time he goes to a rave. Not very creditable compared to a god fearing police officer.

All kidding aside, you're right the tape is not good evidence.


lol...yeah I'm not necessarily disageeing with you or saying that the person SHOULD have been beaten...it's just that we don't know what happened before. Could have been anything... :( could have been nothing :(
Viking
saw the video... !
loconet
Discussion and stories by people who apparently were there:

http://www.utrave.org/showthread.ph...20&page=1&pp=10
Tordan
Thanks for the link Carlos... quite an interesting read.
girllovingtvibe
having an assult rifle aimed at me just because I was there is not a cool situation...

rabbitjoker
I'm going to send a note to my congressman and senator to let them know that this type of response on homeland soil is very concerning and not acceptable.
Cosmic Fur
I stopped being surprised when I read the word UTAH.
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