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How well do you really take care of yourself?? (pg. 3)
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| Jem_hadar |
nobudy takes worse care of their health/body than me! :)
I  McDonald's. |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
its so simple too. when u work out and drinka protein shake. ur body converts it into energy to be used to help reguvinate the body. when theres an excess of energy ur body stores that energy into something we call fat. ready to be used when ur body needs energy and is not getting enough. |
Care to explain to me the exact process of how the body manages a protein to fat conversion?
Edit: Seriously - many people would be interested in your amino acid / lipid conversion theory. |
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| dance2dabeat |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
5-htp is hardly a nutritional supplement. |
:p |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigitalMP
eat healthy
workout/exercise
multiv's
supplements
holla. |
I remember reading a post you made about health/getting in shape, etc. (i *think* it was you) right after the armin boat cruise last last summer (2004).
it was very insightful and interesting. was a good read .... if your the person im thinking of, job well done on taking care of yourself and following/sticking to a routine that works! its not easy.
-jem- |
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| daves |
| quote: | Originally posted by dance2dabeat
I forgot about supplements..i take those too....when i remember
5HTP |
lol
I believe in better living through chemistry too... but just a little bit different than those schools of thought above :D |
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| milos |
i don't take care of myself, i take care of others!
awwwwwwwwwwwww :toocool: |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Care to explain to me the exact process of how the body manages a protein to fat conversion?
Edit: Seriously - many people would be interested in your amino acid / lipid conversion theory. |
Are you suggesting that this doesn't happen, RJ? The process is called adipogenesis or lipogenesis and it's pretty well-known. I'm not a biologist and I can't explain how it works on the cellular level but I don't really think that's important (anybody who wants to know can google that or look it up in a med textbook).
It's much less efficient for the body to convert protein to fat, which is why the body will use the fat you've consumed when possible. But once you eat, it's all calories in the bloodstream, and if you've consumed more protein/carbohydrates than your body can use, it *will* start storing those calories as fat, even though it takes something like 10 times more energy to do so. I think for protein the limit for most people is 1 g/lb/day - consuming more protein than this will either cause it to be converted to fat or excreted through urination (the process of which is very, very bad for the kidneys, and I've known people to end up pissing blood after drinking a few too many protein shakes).
High protein is good, but only in the context of a relatively high protein-to-fat ratio. Going nuts and having 3 protein shakes a day is almost as bad for you as eating Burger King every day. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Are you suggesting that this doesn't happen, RJ? The process is called adipogenesis or lipogenesis and it's pretty well-known. I'm not a biologist and I can't explain how it works on the cellular level but I don't really think that's important (anybody who wants to know can google that or look it up in a med textbook).
It's much less efficient for the body to convert protein to fat, which is why the body will use the fat you've consumed when possible. But once you eat, it's all calories in the bloodstream, and if you've consumed more protein/carbohydrates than your body can use, it *will* start storing those calories as fat, even though it takes something like 10 times more energy to do so. I think for protein the limit for most people is 1 g/lb/day - consuming more protein than this will either cause it to be converted to fat or excreted through urination (the process of which is very, very bad for the kidneys, and I've known people to end up pissing blood after drinking a few too many protein shakes).
High protein is good, but only in the context of a relatively high protein-to-fat ratio. Going nuts and having 3 protein shakes a day is almost as bad for you as eating Burger King every day. |
thnk u digi. i honestly didnt feel like reasking my brother (whos has a phd in neuroscience and has aminor in biology) to explain the exact cellular conversion. nor did i feel like retyping whatever huppla he told me. i know what i know on the basic levels. for everything else theres my brother :P |
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| neuromancer |
i eat healthy food ... pasta, meat, veggies :-) .. for my workout lately i've been relaying on the visits to the guv...
| quote: | Originally posted by dance2dabeat
I am not getting any younger.. |
is this a concern for you ? .. 'cause you look cuter every weekend.. :-) |
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| DigiNut |
I should clarify one thing from the above post: the reason protein and carbohydrates get converted to fat if you consume too much is that the body can't store protein or carbohydrates. It can only store fat. So on the most basic level, your body has a choice in this situation: either waste some energy by converting non-fat elements to fat, or put itself under undue stress trying to get rid of it. It's not one or the other though - both actually occur.
Diets have to be tailored to the individual anyway; people who exercise regularly will generally take in more carbohydrates, and in particular people doing strength/muscle work will also take in more protein. |
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| rabbitjoker |
Anybody can go look up definitions in encyclopedia - it would be nice if more people thought about applying those definitions it in practical realm.
My assertion is: (in practical terms) becoming obese via consuming too much protein is not only unlikely and uncommon but (IMO) next to impossible.
On “basic levels” the conversion of protein to fat just doesn’t happen that often – if ever in an average person’s diet. Even with increased protein consumption beyond 2 g/kg – lets apply practical information, not textbook definitions – people do NOT get fat from protein. |
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| rabbitjoker |
Thanks guys, but...
Anybody can go look up definitions in encyclopedia - it would be nice if more people thought about applying those definitions it in practical realm.
My assertion is: (in practical terms) becoming obese via consuming too much protein is not only unlikely and uncommon but (IMO) next to impossible. |
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