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Current Hamas and Israel Issue. (pg. 5)
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
so the solution is to kill everyone that has a lower standard of living? |
don't put words into my mouth.
a canadian who has been taken care of medically all his life, educated, fed the best food on earth, who is contributing his mind to advance science, technology, culture, economy, etc etc is worth more than a starving kid on his way to die because his government is too corrupt to even care about him. |
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| all-nite-freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
don't put words into my mouth.
a canadian who has been taken care of medically all his life, educated, fed the best food on earth, who is contributing his mind to advance science, technology, culture, economy, etc etc is worth more than a starving kid on his way to die because his government is too corrupt to even care about him. |
not trying to put words in your mouth, but if you would have explained it that way in the first place i would have grasped your point better malek.
I know you hate hippies, but i am a firm believer that every human life is equal when you put aside socio economics.Am i dreaming...yes.The day the dreaming stops is the day you accept that the world is an unfair ty place.I'll take the pipe dream just because it is too depressing to think otherwise.
once you accept things you stop trying to change them;)
the world will never be perfect, but why not try to make it better. |
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| Marcus007 |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
a canadian who has been taken care of medically all his life, educated, fed the best food on earth, who is contributing his mind to advance science, technology, culture, economy, etc etc is worth more than a starving kid on his way to die because his government is too corrupt to even care about him. |
I gotta agree with Malek on this...
Is Bin Laden's life worth more than... say... Koffi Anan's life?
I'm not saying anyone who is less than Koffi Anan deserves to be shot, but think about it...
We are all equals in the big picture. Everyone deserves respect whether you're in a penthouse or begging for money with one arm outside of Famous Player's Paramount.
I can only accept that terrorists will continue to escalate their attacks on the innocent. As much as I want to change this, I know I cannot. Montreal is a hub for international terrorist organizations and I can only hope that these scoundrels will not poison their own homes and leave Montreal alone. |
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| vano |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marcus007
Then why does the world tend to favor the Isaeli side of things? Why don't they continuously condem Israel like they condem Palastine? I doubt any casualties on Israel's behalf are on purpose but as beno said... a ONE YEAR old baby shot at point blank is just... unacceptable... |
Once again, it is not the whole world but the western part of it. There are different reasons; but if you are curious I suggest you read this article. Gives you a good idea.
http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Resear...06_011_walt.pdf |
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| Marcus007 |
| Thanks for the share Vano, I'll definitely check it out. :) |
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| Subey |
It's obvious what's needed here...
a "us backed peace plan"
odd synchronicity these latest events occuring just as Hamas was about to recognize Israel... |
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| KarL_24 |
| quote: | | Then why does the world tend to favor the Isaeli side of things? Why don't they continuously condem Israel like they condem Palastine? I doubt any casualties on Israel's behalf are on purpose but as beno said... a ONE YEAR old baby shot at point blank is just... unacceptable... |
It's not the world, is the US and their world. You know how it goes, last time they wanted us to beleive something they freakin showed the whole world they where on the moon. Nowadays we are 99% sure that it's bull. Chinese will confirm that in a couple months.
Please: Armstrong the first man on the moon. what about the guy with the camera ???? :mad:
Why does the US stand for Israel? It's all about the money, most of the huge indutsries in america are owened by jewish ppl. Israel gives the US their support every single time in International organisations, the US stands for Israel. Max asked if without the US backing them, Israelis would still do what they do. The answer is no man, they wouldn't do half of it. But then again, without Israelis' money would the US be what they are, the answer is again no, they wouldn't be .
The 9/11 happened and the US knew about it, how come no jew went to work that day??? more than 3/4 of the twin towers were owened by jewish firms, why did they stay home??? they obviously knew...
That's the bigger picture, that's what nobody will ever say publicly. But why are these palestian women commiting suicide in the name of God, and why are these Israeli kids dying shot by snipers?
Because somebody want it that way. Who benefits from rain? Coat sellers. Who benefits from war? Weapon sellers. Who are the biggest weapon sellers in the world? The United States of america, Bush and his family... we've all watched farenheit 9/11.
There is also the political issue.
| quote: | | the day the palestinians put down their weapons there will be peace |
Both sides blame the other, truth is as we all said both sides are to blame. But the people in power cannot lose "their face", none will negotiate with the other because that would mean accepting a political defeat. who the hell cares of a political defeat if thousands of miserable families will finally live in peace.
As someone said before, Israelis want peace, those poor eople live constantly under fear, 1/3 of the population is serving military service (3 years men and women). Palestinians also want peace, their youth has no access to school, they can't get a decent job and they have been living in a land which is not even a state for ages.
The only solution for this conflict is a negotiation between the two sides. im surprised nobody has recalled the peace agreement between Yasser Arafat and Yitzhak Rabin in Sept '94. These two men won the Nobel prize for that and what happened? Rabin got killed by a jewish extremist... Everything started again.
One last thing I want to say is that if all the people in the world that say they kill in the name of God trully beleived in God they would never kill. All religions say we must love each other, all messages say there is only one God.
Please us that understand we are all equal (no human has more value than any other) let's not fall in their game. We must all be together, its the only way they will listen to us. And hey if you think we dream let me tell you that yesterday's biggest utopias are todays realities and today's dreams will be tomorrow's world.
Ask the ancient greeks if they thought women would ever be considered with the same rights than men...
K-24
ps: max that meeting of urs id love to be there, wait for me pls! |
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| beno86 |
| wow your ignorant and deeply offensive buddy im jewish and i know ppl who died in sept 11 . you in idiot look up the list of 911 victims and see how many jewish names pop up more then a couple i can assure you. i would like to know how you came up eith your 3/4 of jews stayed home that day stat cause its obiously fake. the fact is this whole conspiracy thing is unfounded .It wasnt the first time the twins towers were bombed al queda operatives tried to bomb in 94??.. . |
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| all-nite-freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by beno86
wow your ignorant and deeply offensive buddy im jewish and i know ppl who died in sept 11 . you in idiot look up the list of 911 victims and see how many jewish names pop up more then a couple i can assure you. i would like to know how you came up eith your 3/4 of jews stayed home that day stat cause its obiously fake. the fact is this whole conspiracy thing is unfounded .It wasnt the first time the twins towers were bombed al queda operatives tried to bomb in 94??.. . |
well youre ignorant and offensive buddy, im not palestinian and i dislike your disregard for their lives |
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| Marcus007 |
| Listen, the weekend of CREAM, there's gonna be an official TA meetup to discuss all sides of this affair. We're all adults here and I think a shisha cafe is a better venue than an internet board for a debate of this grandeur. Beno, Juan, meir, Jay, Epi... everyone who's interested... keep a day around the CREAM weekend open. |
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| beno86 |
| your entitled to your political belief and thats fine as long as it does not turn into hate i do not hate palestians or arabs . but when a middle east thread turns into a the jews were in charge of 9/11 thats blattenly offensive and racist. this is the type of talk that gets jews targeted outside of israel for the so called zionist conspiracies. this is the bull thats gets my ex gf school firebombed in montreal thats get my old high school windows smashed and defaced, that gets a cellphone salesman in france murdered by cigarette burns (ilan hallimi zl''). If any one wants to talk politics thats fine but theres a fine line that one must not step over and he that. |
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| Marcus007 |
Cigarette burns? :(
There is so much hate in this world... :( |
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