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Crobar 4AM close official??? (pg. 4)
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| fr0st |
| quote: | Originally posted by ProggieGuy
Thats really a matter of opinion don't you think? Maybe your tastes have changed. Mine certainly have over the years. |
I was listening to some code blue stuff earlier today. Trance just aint what it used to be, but then again it ended for me by 2002 |
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| dj tek |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I think genre restriction is a problem, too, as you get bored with the same sound over time. That's why the more successful DJs like Sasha, Digweed, Hawtin, Burridge, etc. have changed their style over time. |
actually, ever since the acid & piano house sounds died [which sasha's been plaing in the early 90s along with NYC/Chicago house dubs] and/or evolved to more of a progressive route with or without melodies [progressive house, progressive trance] Sasha & Digweed has been pushing just that.. its been over 8 years since they been doing so. while late 90s & early 2000 sounds had more of a melodic influence, it blossomed and made its way under the progressive genre. what seperated them from alot of other djs is that they were one of the first to push THE BEST in that genre which is critical to the masses at the time. of course being very skilled djs didnt hurt either [awesome mixing/programming/arrangement etc.]
also sasha's the first dj to put out a full-remix album and call it a SASHA album instead of just being credited as the remixer. now ppl just call DJ compilations the DJs' album ie. 'did you hear tiesto's new album Nyana ? its sick !' etc.
Sasha's one of the first to market his own name before the ar that he chose to remix, which is brilliant for recognition values and more.
richie hawtin also give or take has been pushing the sounds of techno for almost his whole career. just like ppl will forever call pvd a 'trance' dj, ppl will credie hawtin as a techno jock.
again, he was one of the first to push the best sounds in that genre and also were way ahead of his time with productions and being innovative with his djing performance. hawtin's been producing minimal techno for like a deacade and has become a new trend in the dance scene few years ago which i find it funny.
just a few exampled of why ^^ are successful.
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| ProggieGuy |
| quote: | Originally posted by fr0st
but then again it ended for me by 2002 |
See thats why I think I like the older stuff better. I don't really like trance now so I think nostalgia makes what I used to listen better than what trance is out now. |
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| kid nyce |
| quote: | Originally posted by barosoap
It's not just the scene that's changed for the worse though. If you compare sets from the late 90's and early '00 with now, the music then was significantly better, especially in the trance genre. It was the combination of great music and great crowds that made parties amazing. Now, it's pretty rare to find both except at smaller venues. |
this is the reason we are friends in the first place
great minds think alike
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there have been many articles about the 'music of today' and most of them hold true. the sound now always seems so technical...so much so that the line between technical and creative have been blurred. people begin to look at music with a fine scope and it's obvious in the productions these days.
back during the days when these modern sound creating tools were not widely available, artist took sounds and translated them in a storyboard fashion to express how that sound fits among other sounds. prime example is tiestos flight 643, sounds he heard on a flight translated into probably one of the top tracks produced by him.
now we sit at a computer, analyze each and every chord, layer them together according to a theoretical and proven beat pattern, alter the hook slightly and say we mastered a track. can you imagine where music production would be if the computer was never involved in the design? Yes you have to beat a drum, record it on a dat, loop it and record it on another dat and slow down the play back to fit what you creatively think is how your sound should sound.
this is only part of the whole, i think alot of the sounds these days lack creative sense. |
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| barosoap |
| quote: | Originally posted by ProggieGuy
Thats really a matter of opinion don't you think? Maybe your tastes have changed. Mine certainly have over the years. |
I hardly listen to trance anymore b/c recently it's been rubbish. If it was still like it was 5 years ago maybe I'd still love it. My tastes have evolved though, and I'm not saying EDM is completely devoid of quality music. It's great to have other genres like minimal rising in popularity, but it's sad to see how much other genres fall short of what they used to be like. |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by fr0st
4 years is really that long ;) I started going to raves when i was 16 im 24 now...... |
I started going to clubs at 16....i am almost 32 now:p
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| kid nyce |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
I started going to clubs at 16....i am almost 32 now:p
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damn you old - you should be on the home decoration and landscaping forums...get out of here you old bag =) |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by barosoap
It's not just the scene that's changed for the worse though. If you compare sets from the late 90's and early '00 with now, the music then was significantly better, especially in the trance genre. It was the combination of great music and great crowds that made parties amazing. Now, it's pretty rare to find both except at smaller venues. |
Everything can be blamed on the SUPERSTAR DJs...namely Tiesto, PVD, Armin, Ferry, and the rest of the get-a-long gang.
NYC was BEST when the DJs where nobodies....no one cared who span what, just as long as the was good. Circa 1993, YES waaaaayyyy before Twilo days. Twilo was the begining of the end of NYC....but a nice way to go out. |
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| Piet |
i dont think the crobar will close at 4 when armin is there saturday
for tiesto, armin, sasha+digweed, pvd, the only alternatives i can think of are concert venues and roxy |
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| barosoap |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Everything can be blamed on the SUPERSTAR DJs...namely Tiesto, PVD, Armin, Ferry, and the rest of the get-a-long gang. |
I agree. A major part of the problem when anything goes from underground to mainstream is the shift of focus from creativity and innovation to marketability. |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Everything can be blamed on the SUPERSTAR DJs...namely Tiesto, PVD, Armin, Ferry, and the rest of the get-a-long gang.
NYC was BEST when the DJs where nobodies....no one cared who span what, just as long as the was good. Circa 1993, YES waaaaayyyy before Twilo days. Twilo was the begining of the end of NYC....but a nice way to go out. |
I was waiting for you to chime in so I could comment about how it's hilarious to see all you descibe "the golden age" as the time when you were 18-22, then after that, you feel like it's died off. All the people who are my age feel like it's died in the last 2-3 years (since they turned 22) and you feel like it died when you were in your early 20s, too. |
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| kid nyce |
I just noticed that this thread has severely been hijacked by an already beat to dead subject and I contributed to that, so sorry to the threadstarter.
fact of the matter is it'll probably be closing early so a notice to those who plan on attending any venue within that area to be prepared to leave the clubs at 4-5am. Hope this serves as a warning to the countless amounts of threads about 'omg they kicked us out, how lame is it that they are closing down clubs at 4am' type of threads. |
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