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James Holden - The Idiots are Winning (pg. 8)
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| Generation X |
| quote: | Originally posted by PETRAN
Indeed, these tunes are so idiotic that it would be very difficult to find such non-sense and stupid music. (music? no i don't think so). This album is the musical equivalent of a post-modern "artistic" creation that i saw last year. It featured a toilet with something written on it and the whole idea was to symbolically express a statement. This is just stupid i don't consider this to be art. Art should represent aesthetic qualities as well not just "hidden ideas and concepts". And for one thing there is nothing aesthetic about THIS album and THAT toilet. Simple trash.
As i stated in my previous post there is so much good music out-there that deserves to be listened.Why waste money on such non-sense acoustic noisy disharmony which lacks content and shows a complete absense of feeling?Even industrial and death-metal music-that is-the most "harsh"and "noisy" genres of music that exist out there, encapsulate their own unique feelings such as anger, desperation and angst. This is just non-sense.If this can be labelled as "music" why not listen to the steady buzzing sound of your refrigerator instead? |
That proves my point. You automatically say his music is so bad, there just CAN'T be anything like it you can provide as examples. How does that make any sense? Your argument makes no sense because music is totally subjective. You can say you hate it and find it has absolutely no redeeming qualities, but that doesn't mean it is a fact. It isn't. Unless you provide some further logical reasons and evidence, your argument has no validity and thus, the idiots ARE winning. It's opinions likes yours that limit musical and artistic progress in music and other media forms. Fortunately, people like Holden exist and push the envelope and move things forward. |
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| Generation X |
| quote: | Originally posted by PETRAN
Indeed, these tunes are so idiotic that it would be very difficult to find such non-sense and stupid music. (music? no i don't think so). This album is the musical equivalent of a post-modern "artistic" creation that i saw last year. It featured a toilet with something written on it and the whole idea was to symbolically express a statement. This is just stupid i don't consider this to be art. Art should represent aesthetic qualities as well not just "hidden ideas and concepts". And for one thing there is nothing aesthetic about THIS album and THAT toilet. Simple trash.
As i stated in my previous post there is so much good music out-there that deserves to be listened.Why waste money on such non-sense acoustic noisy disharmony which lacks content and shows a complete absense of feeling?Even industrial and death-metal music-that is-the most "harsh"and "noisy" genres of music that exist out there, encapsulate their own unique feelings such as anger, desperation and angst. This is just non-sense.If this can be labelled as "music" why not listen to the steady buzzing sound of your refrigerator instead? |
That proves my point. You automatically say his music is so bad, there just CAN'T be anything like it you can provide as examples. How does that make any sense? Your argument makes no sense because music is totally subjective. You can say you hate it and find it has absolutely no redeeming qualities, but that doesn't mean it is a fact. It isn't. Unless you provide some further logical reasons and evidence, your argument has no validity and thus, the idiots ARE winning. It's opinions likes yours that limit musical and artistic progress in music and other media forms. Fortunately, people like Holden exist and push the envelope and move things forward. |
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| Generation X |
| quote: | Originally posted by PETRAN
Indeed, these tunes are so idiotic that it would be very difficult to find such non-sense and stupid music. (music? no i don't think so). This album is the musical equivalent of a post-modern "artistic" creation that i saw last year. It featured a toilet with something written on it and the whole idea was to symbolically express a statement. This is just stupid i don't consider this to be art. Art should represent aesthetic qualities as well not just "hidden ideas and concepts". And for one thing there is nothing aesthetic about THIS album and THAT toilet. Simple trash.
As i stated in my previous post there is so much good music out-there that deserves to be listened.Why waste money on such non-sense acoustic noisy disharmony which lacks content and shows a complete absense of feeling?Even industrial and death-metal music-that is-the most "harsh"and "noisy" genres of music that exist out there, encapsulate their own unique feelings such as anger, desperation and angst. This is just non-sense.If this can be labelled as "music" why not listen to the steady buzzing sound of your refrigerator instead? |
That proves my point. You automatically say his music is so bad, there just CAN'T be anything like it you can provide as examples. How does that make any sense? Your argument makes no sense because music is totally subjective. You can say you hate it and find it has absolutely no redeeming qualities, but that doesn't mean it is a fact. It isn't. Unless you provide some further logical reasons and evidence, your argument has no validity and thus, the idiots ARE winning. It's opinions likes yours that limit musical and artistic progress in music and other media forms. Fortunately, people like Holden exist and push the envelope and move things forward. |
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| chesco |
"Push things forward":haha:
comedy gold. |
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| Trazedict |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trazedict
So there is no track #8? |
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| jupiterone |
| I honestly enjoyed most tracks, I dont see the fascinations with Lump though... |
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| ZeJayMan |
After hearing this the other day, I think it's a load of rubbish. Most of it is just piss poor little beeps and bops that jump around the place. If this is meant to be minimal, which I think Mr Smarty Pants is trying, it's way off. It sounds like a Snes being raped.
I'd go as far as to say this is one of the worst things i've ever heard. It's just not my cup of tea, it's not even my type of liquid.
0/10 |
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| Bernd_Gradish |
| quote: | Originally posted by mikefasssy
the idiots have spoken :p |
Word!
People please just go with the mass and listen to your same old boring minimal sound. I hope you will realize someday that it bored the out of you back in the days ;)
Btw, where are you lurking nowadays old BC board fella? |
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| Bernd_Gradish |
Woah, fast reply :D
Regged there a week ago. Didn't see you!? :confused: |
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| mikefasssy |
| im there, lurkin about hehe :D been busy with finalsss |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bernd_Gradish
Word!
People please just go with the mass and listen to your same old boring minimal sound. I hope you will realize someday that it bored the out of you back in the days ;)
Btw, where are you lurking nowadays old BC board fella? |
So... what? Boring and/or plain are the only options one can listen to? |
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