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How many pills have you done? (pg. 34)
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rabbitjoker
StereoPrincess
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Originally posted by Fast Turtle
Well, the average price of methamphetamine (speed, crystal, tweak) is $50-90 a gram... Most pills that are MDMA and speed or just speed have 10-30mg of methamphetamine in them.

So let's say you buy a gram of crystal meth, and it's 60% pure. That's 600mg. You take 25mg for a night on the town (8 or so hours of partying if you take it orally), so you get 24 doses. You pay $70 for this gram of meth, making your individual dosage unit costing $3 each, which is probably less than you pay for a pill, unless in bulk.

The problems are: a lot of people have trouble limiting their intake of speed once they start and end up binging, and that methamphetamine is overall a fair amount more neurotoxic than MDMA.




this post wasnt just written was it?

lol. seriously people, let's stop talking about this before some of you look like huge crackers (OH, too late!).
Silky Johnson
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Originally posted by StereoPrincess
this post wasnt just written was it?

lol. seriously people, let's stop talking about this before some of you look like huge crackers (OH, too late!).




Meh, I appreciate people's honesty about it. If you have to lie about or hide something you're doing, to me that means you shouldn't be doing it. edit: not that being honest about it makes it ok...but I think you get what I mean, I hope. :p

I know plenty worse crackers than the people posting in this thread anyways.
Cosmic Fur
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Originally posted by Chris Allen
It's really that simple. If you need drugs to have a good time with anything, that's a problem.


Umm.. That's the entire point of drugs - to help you have a good time with something. Nobody takes drugs to have a bad time.
Silky Johnson
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Umm.. That's the entire point of drugs - to help you have a good time with something. Nobody takes drugs to have a bad time.



I think he meant that if you have to RELY on drugs to have a good time, you have a problem.
daves
this thread needs more sketch.

i wish i had a pill to eat while reading all this :(
Silky Johnson
quote:
Originally posted by daves
this thread needs more sketch.

i wish i had a pill to eat while reading all this :(




Aw, here you go:




:D
geroin
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
I'm pretty sure the scene wasn't devised and created around drug culture. Did it have a big impact, definitely. Do you need to have drugs to have a good time at these shows, if you do you have a problem.

It's really that simple. If you need drugs to have a good time with anything, that's a problem.

This is one of the few message boards around where people go to such great lengths to defend illicit drug use. Looking on it from a perspective of someone who doesn't condone or use drugs, it's quite comical.

I've never needed drugs to have a good time at a party and I won't need them in the future either. Party is still a great time. I think I would go as far to say that NOT doing drugs and seeing how ridiculous people USING drugs are is what makes the party even better.


absolutely agreed.


quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller

I think it's pretty hard to tell if someone has a drug problem based on their posts on a message board.


how about looking at poll numbers? in my opinion those 27% definitely have a problem, its absurd to think otherwise..
The Highroller
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Allen
This is one of the few message boards around where people go to such great lengths to defend illicit drug use. Looking on it from a perspective of someone who doesn't condone or use drugs, it's quite comical.


Can you explain to me why it's comical that one would defend drug use? Who are you to say that a person who enjoys a pill every once in a while is in the wrong and shouldn't be doing it? If that person leads a constructive life and wants to do a pill every once in a while, they're probably going to defend their decision to do so if people like you come along and try to come down on them for doing so.

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
You seem surprised that drugs are a huge part of this scene. Is this something you just found out? The act of intoxicating one's self has been a part of human nature ever since the dawn of time. It is not something new. The rave/afterhours scene has always been like this. Drugs are a huge factor in the way parties are, and the way music is. Why? Most people who are at the party are on drugs, and the music is marketed to people who are on drugs while listening to it. If people weren't on drugs at the party, the party, nor the music would be the same.


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Originally posted by jennypie
When everyone around you is ed up all the time, how is it that you can REALLY tell what's harmful and what isn't? One person's behaviour validates the next persons, and so on...so we come to accept that it isn't harmful or "wrong". And it's a nice little cushion to justify what we're doing.


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Originally posted by jennypie
;)


That's a generalization. While that does tend to happen to some people, smart people tend to use their heads and keep in touch with reality, realizing that using drugs can be harmful, and should be used in moderation.


quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Totally agreed. LoL at the last part...it's so true, and something I HAVE enjoyed now that I don't do drugs anymore. I don't look down on those people though, cause it used to be me too...which is what makes me laugh about it.


Sorry, but I don't really believe this. Ever since you've "cleaned up your act" and started posting on these boards again, your posts regarding drugs and drug users have had a condescending tone.
The Highroller
quote:
Originally posted by geroin
how about looking at poll numbers? in my opinion those 27% definitely have a problem, its absurd to think otherwise..


While I think that amount of drugs consumed over one's life is one indicator of a drug problem, I think a drug problem is a bit more complicated than number of pills consumed.

Silky Johnson
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Originally posted by The Highroller

[color=ccff00]Sorry, but I don't really believe this. Ever since you've "cleaned up your act" and started posting on these boards again, your posts regarding drugs and drug users have had a condescending tone.





Once again, I don't really care what you think, Graham. Interpret my posts however you want, I know what I mean by them and it isn't that. I don't have to prove that to you.
Fast Turtle
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this post wasnt just written was it?

lol. seriously people, let's stop talking about this before some of you look like huge crackers (OH, too late!).


I'm not a drug user these days, so I have no problem mentioning stuff... just don't ask anything silly like, "Where can I score some pills, PLUR".

I really didn't even use drugs that much when I did use... I just like to horde information.
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