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Most dangerous drugs (pg. 4)
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC
Mild withdrawal effects? You have obviously never seen someone withdrawing from heroine. You may actually be able to die from alcohol and benzo withdrawals, but going through heroine withdrawals you feel sure you are going to die (you just dont). |
Im not talking about subjective experiences here, im talking about the actual effects on the body. And nachos, it is safe as long as you don't overdose. There have been no documented negative effects on the brain or body at moderate doses. |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by venomX
Im not talking about subjective experiences here, im talking about the actual effects on the body. And nachos, it is safe as long as you don't overdose. There have been no documented negative effects on the brain or body at moderate doses. |
yes there is, addiction... which causes an effect on ur life... and that will ater affect ur body. |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
yes there is, addiction... which causes an effect on ur life... and that will ater affect ur body. |
Read my post again. The whole addiction problem and negative effects of addiction are because it's illegal. One of the top doctor's and co-founders of John Hopkins medical school, which is one of the top medical schools, was using heroin for the longest time and it didnt affect his life at all. He practiced for many years without any adverse effects. The negative effects of heroin and coke are mostly due to them being illegal. |
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| nchs09 |
| i think you are mistaken mate. |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by nchs09
i think you are mistaken mate. |
You can tell that to all the people that have done research on the effects of heroin on the body too, since im talking relying on their knowledge. Bu then again, your entitled to your opinion. |
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| Enigmatic XTC |
| quote: | Originally posted by venomX
Read my post again. The whole addiction problem and negative effects of addiction are because it's illegal. One of the top doctor's and co-founders of John Hopkins medical school, which is one of the top medical schools, was using heroin for the longest time and it didnt affect his life at all. He practiced for many years without any adverse effects. The negative effects of heroin and coke are mostly due to them being illegal. |
If the whole addiction problem is because it's illegal, how do you explain alcohol addiction? |
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| CrazedOut |
| quote: | Originally posted by iammesol
Ok... wow... somehow in all 5 years of my teenage life I missed that Cannabis is one the names for pot :nervous: :eyes: :wtf: |
Funny you say this, cause only recently I found out POT is cannabis :stongue: |
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| CrazedOut |
| Wait, so what's this list based on? There are a lot of factors to be considered. |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by CrazedOut
Funny you say this, cause only recently I found out POT is cannabis :stongue: |
Oh my... |
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| CrazedOut |
| Stop making fun and answer my last question :p |
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| noikeee |
| quote: | Originally posted by TheKidsWantTechno
the only thing that makes the drug dangerous really is the stupid you might do while you're on it :crazy: |
that was pretty much my point, I've heard/read too many wild stories about it |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Enigmatic XTC
If the whole addiction problem is because it's illegal, how do you explain alcohol addiction? |
Im not talking about alcohol addiction. Also, I was referring to the problems around addiction when i said that. Many people when given the chance to take controlled dosages of heroin (and other opiates) have been shown to not get the 'craving' associated with unregulated use. Many of them have also decided to get off heroin all together. It is true heroin is addictive, but much of the problems, and to some extent the intensity of current addictions is due to the fact that addicts never know how much they are taking and can not engage in usage of the drug in a stable environment.
As far as alcohol addiction, I already said that i think alcohol is far more dangerous than heroin. There is evidence for genetic predispositions for addictions, and specifically for alcohol addictions. The phenomena of addiction is not a simple one that can only be attributed to one particular reason. I did not say at any point that heroin was not addictive. My point is that it is way less addictive and harmful than people are led to believe by the media, and that if u take the risks associated with the illegality of heroin away it would be lower than alcohol or tobacco on that list. |
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