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The best way to learn how to produceTrance (pg. 2)
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| Mr.Mystery |
| Whatever happened to paragraphs? |
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| G-Con |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Whatever happened to paragraphs? |
I know. The problem is, when people don't use paragrapghs (Spirit5 anyone) the reader just can't be arsed to read the post alltogether cause it looks like a such a headache. |
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| a98 |
| well most people have been producing like 10 years and have learned it all by themselves. nowadays every new producer wants to learn everything in a month and have their first records out next year. so i can see why some people don't want to hand everything on a silver plate to just anyone. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Whatever happened to paragraphs? |
Para-what now? |
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| gwrmarines |
| quote: | Originally posted by RANDOMACCESS
Do you know any other source of information about trance? books, web pages, tuttorials, dvds, universities, courses, etc?
Whats your favorite trance sound library or patches sample cd?
Thanks a lot!
Gio. |
http://www.amazon.com/Dance-Music-M...s/dp/0240519159 |
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| jupiterone |
You experiment with your DAW and know the genre you want to produce.
Not many people want to give out their "secrets" or techniques when it comes to producing music, especially more professional producers. It took them time to learn how to produce and it should take you time aswell.
Opening up a ready session for whatever program you use is bull in my opinion. It can be fun and all that jazz but in the end you're not doing anything really different other than using someone elses ideas, and for the average beginner who grabs hold of ready DAW sessions, they will use it for their own productions. |
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| LENG |
| if you really want ppl to do that, please do take the initiative and post em. no point complaining about ppl not sharing source files when you yourself, a producer of dunno how many years haven't done so yet. |
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| DJMiakoda |
I don't think it's a bad idea for someone with good experience to throw something together demonstrating composition, mixing and effects techniques.
I don't think the author of this thread is saying 'post your most elaborate, favorite music for me to copy'.
I've desired the same thing in the past, I can compose and structure Trance music but I get hung up on the mixing process and how to make the song really 'pop'.
What's wrong with someone with experience throwing something basic together to demonstrate some basic techniques?
Think about it, how do a good majority of recording engineers learn their trade?
Hands on training working with seasoned engineers.
Books can only get you so far.
Most people with a creative mind won't just simply copy their process step for step but it might give them a good starting point and help acclimate them to this genre IMHO.
I agree it takes years to master your art but if we're going to be so anti-help people get going, we might as well toss all the books and tutorials out as well and just tell anyone getting started 'figure it out for yourself, I'm so not going to help'.
Just my $.02 |
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| clubkidnycnyc |
| sharing files wont help you learn anything |
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| Storyteller |
| I disagree, I've gained a tremendous ammount of knowledge in my earlier days by observing another one's music source files. Knowledge which still is as relevant as it was in '95 in Scream Tracker :P. |
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| gwrmarines |
| quote: | Originally posted by clubkidnycnyc
sharing files wont help you learn anything |
I disagree. If the user actually studies what is going on with it and learns it would help alot. Of course there will be the guys that just steal it and not learn anything but hey...they're loss right. |
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| Mr Kre8 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Session files are just examples. Examples can help someone learn a specific technique (i.e. side-chained bassline) but they're actually counterproductive in learning "how to produce" because people have a natural tendency to work around examples. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
The worst [productions / designs / code / essays / etc.] are very often the result of somebody taking an example, not really understanding it, and changing things randomly until the result looks superficially like what they wanted. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
.. like track arrangement .. examples are useless because all they can do is show you how to produce tracks that are exactly like someone else's tracks (and we already have enough of those). |
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I think that examples may help when it comes to displaying simple technique, however there is a lot more learning to be done before implementing something you found in someone else's rns.
10% of the producers here will use the sample files correctly, learning each individual stage of the setup, what it does and why it does it, and then apply that creatively when necessary to their own productions but the remaining 90% will simply copy their findings and superficially manipulate them without ever understanding them.
This, as previously stated, is counterproductive as the user will learn nothing. |
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