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Will Deadmau5 be remembered as a pioneer ? (pg. 8)
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by LionsLair
Allright the flamers have arrived in full force...ill be back when someone wants to discuss EDM Music theory, since its the only part of this thread worth salvaging at this point. |
Music theory is music theory, you ing clown. All music works within it and it doesn't change for each genre. There's nothing unique to the music theory behind electronic music at all, which is why you could perform Faxing Berlin on an orchestra if you wanted to waste a lot of time and money.
Have you had any formal music training at all? |
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| MichaelBoogerd! |
Yep but as another current trend would dictate, its only a "sample" and not a "remix" so the title will be "Deadmau5 - Clockwork" |
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| LionsLair |
Allright...its the flaming TA chain gang in full force. Maybe when you guys actually get into making music, or if you do make music, actually know what the your making conceptually you will understand that EDM has its own theories, unwritten as they may be. Sure their is music theory that covers all genres, which is the point you lame s are trying to make, but if you actually knew anything you would know that every genre has its own theories within the main music theory framework.
And im done with this thread... |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by LionsLair
Allright...its the flaming TA chain gang in full force. Maybe when you guys actually get into making music, or if you do make music, actually know what the your making conceptually... |
I have made music. I make some with my friend at university, who can write melodies with his eyes closed (I you not, he once accidentally plagiarised a Vangelis track he'd never heard). I can see what you mean, because a few weeks ago we decided to make a goa trance track in the mid-90s style. I said to my friend "If you write arpeggiated melodies with 1/16th notes using the Phrygian scale, you'll get a stereotypical goa track". However, that is not a "music theory". It, or rather they, are just a set of musical conventions that define a particular style.
To claim otherwise is to talk absolute . And as you completely ignored my question, I'll assume you have no formal music training at all. |
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| washout |
i think zimmerman has a unique sound going on.
though its not original or anything, i do like it.
i also agree he just kinda builds around a template, which could limit him.
i think he will be remembered for his alias more than his music.
"hey bro, remember that tune from 2007 by that dude who found a rat in his computer ??" |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I have made music. I make some with my friend at university, who can write melodies with his eyes closed (I you not, he once accidentally plagiarised a Vangelis track he'd never heard). I can see what you mean, because a few weeks ago we decided to make a goa trance track in the mid-90s style. I said to my friend "If you write arpeggiated melodies with 1/16th notes using the Phrygian scale, you'll get a stereotypical goa track". However, that is not a "music theory". It, or rather they, are just a set of musical conventions that define a particular style.
To claim otherwise is to talk absolute . And as you completely ignored my question, I'll assume you have no formal music training at all. |
I didn't know you made music.
Will we be seeing any epic house from you? ;) |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by LionsLair
Allright...its the flaming TA chain gang in full force. Maybe when you guys actually get into making music, or if you do make music, actually know what the your making conceptually you will understand that EDM has its own theories, unwritten as they may be. Sure their is music theory that covers all genres, which is the point you lame s are trying to make, but if you actually knew anything you would know that every genre has its own theories within the main music theory framework.
And im done with this thread...lame s commence. |
Sometimes it's better to admit you're wrong than throw the usual hissy fit and "I'm not playing with you anymore" comment.
There are different production methods and techniques within each genre, but music theory is always the same. Always. |
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| maddraver |
is he a pioneer, not
is he a ing bad ass, yes
do i like all his work, not
is sasha a pioneer, yes
does my opinion matter, yes |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | Originally posted by LionsLair
Here we go with another "teh EDM theory bible doesnt exists, therefore EDM music theory no exists."
To practice it you have to conceptualize it, how do you practice something that requires crafting music a user can interface with in a way you want them to without conceptualising it first? It requires music theory. And the next stage of this thread will go into semantics...joy.
Your probably familiar with Burial - Archangel, since its the most maintstream track off the Untrue album, how do you think Burial came up with the music he produced for that track and if you've heard the album...the entire album. By simply practicing?
ps: i never said every aritst subconciously taps into edm music theory, i specifically said the talented artists and the ones that make great music do. Not every producer knows edm music theory, only a small percentage do, and they are the ones you probably champion the most, without knowing they "practice" edm theory when they produce their music. |
why are you so self-righteous? is that part of edm music theory to?
as for your question.... please go listen to some improvised jazz at some point
and here's a passage from Hesse's steppenwolf that I post every day
| quote: | | Then what does it depend on?/On making music, Herr Haller, on making music as well and as much as possible, and with all the intensity of which one is capable. That is the point, Monsieur. Though I carried the complete works of Bach and Haydn in my head and could say the cleverest things about them, not a soul would be the better for it. But when I take hold of my mouthpiece and play a lively shimmy, whether the shimmy be good or bad, it will give people pleasure. It gets into their legs and into their blood. That's the point and that alone. Look at the faces in a dance hall at the moment when the music strikes up after a longish pause, how eyes sparkle, legs twitch and faces begin to laugh. That is why one makes music. |
I probably agree with you but I think your definition of 'theory' is too broad. |
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| julien2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by PETRAN
Dude, there is no such thing as "EDM Music Theory", there is ONE music theory (well ,at least i'm talking about the western music theory, i don't know about arabian, indian systems and stuff) and EDM producers, like all musicians in the ing planet, use it to make music....(although this is very controversial about EDM producers since the only thing one should know about is how to use reason or cu-base...) |
+1
Lionslair should lay off wiki and get real |
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| julien2 |
Oh and there is also an excellent guide called "how to argue on the internet, on somethingawful.com
thats for you, lionslair |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I have made music. I make some with my friend at university, who can write melodies with his eyes closed (I you not, he once accidentally plagiarised a Vangelis track he'd never heard). I can see what you mean, because a few weeks ago we decided to make a goa trance track in the mid-90s style. I said to my friend "If you write arpeggiated melodies with 1/16th notes using the Phrygian scale, you'll get a stereotypical goa track". However, that is not a "music theory". It, or rather they, are just a set of musical conventions that define a particular style.
To claim otherwise is to talk absolute . And as you completely ignored my question, I'll assume you have no formal music training at all. |
That's exactly what I was saying from the get go.  |
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