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IPHONE coming to ROGERS for $200 July 11 (pg. 6)
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| exstasie |
| quote: | Originally posted by TrickDaddE
I highly doubt it going to be 199 or 200 on a three years deal, The Numbers quoted where in U.S$ which by Rogers conversion rates still = $400.00 on a three year contract for a Phone thats almost 2 years old even thought this is the 2nd gen. of it!!!
Tele-Communication in this Country has gone from World Leaders to Sub-Third world over the last 20 years!!!
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PS. It will be $199.
It's $199 in the US on a 2-year Contract.
It's $199 in Canada on a 3-year contract. We're already getting screwed royally. I'd rather pay the extra $100 then have to add an extra year on to the contract.
| quote: | Originally posted by me@t k@tie
haha i work in partnership with Rogers, and they are supposed to tell me things, but they aren't! I'll try to find out over the next few days. |
that would be greatly appreciated :D
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| kaniz |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
Well, the Sony Ericsson C905 aka Shiho is apparently to be sold for €500. It would be less if you can buy them on a contract, but most of these phones aren't available in Canada, and will never be. So you have to buy them at a non-subsidized price.
I'm going to guess that this won't be available for sale in Canada from by Rogers, but you can use any phone that will work on the GSM network, so long as it works...
The HTC Touch Diamond - $750-$800 non-subsidized Price.
iPhone: $199.99 on a 3 Year Subidized plan by Rogers. You will not be able to buy the phone without a 3-year contract (speculation, but that is what is happening in the US)
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See, that is why I'd be excited for an iPhone. Not because I'm an 'Apple loving drone that sucks up anything they put out like a mindless sheep', but because
- Relativity affordable price tag, especially when subsidized.
- Actually available in Canada without having to go through the hassle of unlocking/etc
500 pounds (so nearly 1k) for a phone, or $800 for one of the others? ye-ouch!
So, not only do I get nailed with having to shell out big bucks, I need to go through the hassle of obtaining the phone, then unlocking it to work in Canada.
While the next gen iPhone may not be 'revolutionary' in the technology sense - the availability, price, and the targeting of the "average" consumer is what will make it a winner.
Those other phones, while very nice phones and excite the geek/gadget geek in me - are simply too expensive, too inconvenient, and targeting the bleeding-edge/early adopter portion of the market.
Blackberries/etc are going after more of the business user more so than the average consumer, and comes down to a matter of "different markets, different needs, different products" and not "one is better than the other"
Yes, the iPod was nothing new - MP3 players had been around for ever. What Apple did, was make them user-friendly and a house-hold name so that even Grandma knew what an iPod was.
This is what Apple is now doing for the (smart?)Phone. Instead of simply being a product that is targeting the top 5% of bleeding-edge consumers, or business users - they are wrapping it up in a product/price/package that appeals to the general consumer.
Now, I'm not super into cellphones/gadgets - but if there is a better product, geared towards the average consumer, that is actually available in Canada with a similar/close price-point - then I'd be all ears to hear it. None of the other phones listed in this thread really seem to meet that criteria all too well.
Just seems that every time the anti-Apple bandwagon comes into town saying "There's better products out there!", they never seem to say which is better, or the ones they list are too expensive / unavailable / not fitting the same needs. On Tribe, one person was saying a UMPC is better than the iPhone, which leads me to think "uhh, can I fit a UMPC into my front pocket and hardly notice its there?" ... no, not really. |
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| Oneeleven |
| quote: | | which leads me to think "uhh, can I fit a UMPC into my front pocket and hardly notice its there?" ... no, not really. |
You *could* do that with an Iphone? |
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| kaniz |
Pocketable
Not so pocketable |
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| Oneeleven |
| quote: | Originally posted by kaniz
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Isn't that just a Ipod Touch? |
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| kaniz |
its an iPhone next to a 5G iPod.
Either way, it can fit into a pocket - may be a bit snug, but still pocketable.
I'm in no rush to go out and buy an iPhone, I just find some of the anti-Apple bandwagon to be just as mindless as the Apple fanboys. (not specifically to TA/this thread, but on a 'generally speaking' level) |
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| VERTiG0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kaniz
which leads me to think "uhh, can I fit a UMPC into my front pocket and hardly notice its there?" ... no, not really. |
Oh you'll definitely be noticing that iPhone in your pocket. They're huge and heavy. |
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| exstasie |
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| Dr. Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
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The bold is quad band UMTS, and its GPS is also assisted. But 5 hr talk time for both seems kind of high; especially when on UMTS, since it drains power like hell. I'd say ~ 4 hr ;) |
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| DJ Mach X |
| What's the damage on that 9000? $600+ ? |
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| exstasie |
BREAKING NEWS!
I'M RELEASING THE INFO YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR! Join my iPhone group on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=25794256076
***Confidential Rogers Information. For Internal Distribution Only.***
Rogers and Apple today announced that the iPhone 3G will be available in Canada on July 11. iPhone 3G combines three products into one small, lightweight device: a revolutionary mobile phone, a widescreen iPod, and it puts the Internet in your pocket with the best e-mail, web browsing, search and maps applications ever on a mobile phone.
The new version of the iPhone harnesses the power of Rogers's broad and powerful 3G mobile broadband network, which offers 3G mobile phones download speeds of up to 1.4 Mbps.
Key Device Features:
Operates on Wi-Fi, EDGE, and 3G networks
New enterprise e-mail capability with support for Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync
New iPhone software development kit (SDK) to support new innovative applications
New Activation Process and Return Policy:
The iPhone 3G will be activated at point of sale when the device is purchased, in store. The Fido grace period will change from 15 days to 30 days and will require the device to be returned to place of purchase before service is cancelled. The 30-day Rogers grace period will remain unchanged with the exception of no limits being imposed for voice or data usage.
Pricing and Plans
Device Pricing:
$199 8GB and $299 16GB for new activations and qualified upgrades with existing 2 or 3-year agreements.
Data Plans and Pricing:
The iPhone 3G will be activated on existing Rogers and Fido voice rate plans, but new data plans have been created for the 3G device.
All iPhone 3G customers are required to have one of the new data plans and qualifying voice plan.
Customers intending to use the iPhone 3G for access to corporate e-mail, business applications, or access to corporate intranet are required to activate with Enterprise Data Plan for iPhone.
SUP service discounts for both voice and data plans will apply to iPhone 3G.
RAC service discounts for voice and data will apply to iPhone 3G, when on a qualifying data plan.
Ambassadors will not get a discount on device purchase for iPhone 3G.
Data Pricing will be as follows:
Consumer Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$30 - Unlimited Data (E-mail/Web), includes Visual Voicemail when subscribed to any voicemail service.
Enterprise Data Plan (must be added to qualified voice plan):
$45 – Unlimited Data with personal and corporate e-mail, web, includes Visual Voicemail when subscribed to any voicemail service.
Upgrade Eligibility and Qualified Upgrade Pricing
Upgrade eligibility will be determined based on standard upgrade eligibility rules. Customers must be upgrade eligible to receive the qualified upgrade pricing. However, not all customers will be qualified upgrades. Rogers has not determined the price of the 3G device for non-qualified upgrades.
All customers will be required to sign a 3-year agreement. There will not be a "no commitment" price or a 2-year agreement for the iPhone 3G.
Activation Process
The new 3G device will be activated in store in Rogers, Fido and Apple stores. Customers must accept Rogers and Apple terms of service, sign a 3-year agreement, and select the data plan for the iPhone 3G before leaving the store. A short tether process to unbrick the 3G device will be performed in all Rogers and Fido stores (tether cords will be provided). Apple stores will also perform this tether process, however in the event that a customer's device is not tethered in the Apple store, their device will be inoperable until they get home and tether through iTunes. Prepaid will not be allowed on the iPhone 3G device.
RAC tools, including TOE and Salescentral have been modified to allow agents to enter customer's information, select rate plans and data plans, device price (if applicable) and output a document that will allow store reps to quickly access the customer's information and save time for data entry in the activation process.
Compensation
Because the 3G device will only be activated in store, compensation for the 3G device will be BAU. RAC reps will receive compensation for upgrades and new activations with a 3-year agreement.
Purchase Limit
The device purchase limit will be three (3) per customer for iPhone 3G in Rogers and Fido stores.
Direct Fulfillment
The DFU tool will be available at launch at RAC for iPhone 3Gs. Customers will be required to pay for the device when the order is placed and the phone will be shipped to the store in the customer's name for pickup.
Return Policy
The return policy for Fido iPhone 3G is changing from 15 days to 30 days for both Apple and Fido stores. The 30-day Rogers grace period will remain unchanged with the exception of no limits being imposed for voice or data usage.
To cancel service within the first 30 days, the customer must return their equipment to the place of purchase (no exceptions).
If the customer cancels service after 30 days, they will be charged the ECF and DECF. The customer is not required to return the device to cancel after 30 days.
Merchandising/Marketing
3G demos will be pulled from stock when they arrive following launch process for display devices.
Video loop content will be pushed to stores when it is available.
The following merchandising elements will be in stores for launch:
Rate brochure and display rate card
22 x 28 poster
Window banner
Training
Device training, including features and functionality, will be available via Library and Fidoversity by 6/30.
Training for all representatives will begin no later than 7/1.
Launch preparedness training, including last minute details, will be conducted the week of launch (if needed) by team leaders.
Communications/Library
All iPhone-related communications, inclusive of training announcements, will be posted to Library. Search on keyword "iPhone 3G" to locate.
Launch Plans
Support logistics for launch day will be available:
Letters will be sent to all landlords under VP/GM signature for advance notice of store hours, crowds expected, possible parking issues, etc.
Security will be provided for locations requesting armed police or unarmed, uniformed guards.
Manager checklists will be provided to support managers to set expectations and help them be prepared to complete all required actions.
Documents will be posted on TGP to let managers know when to expect delivery of launch support materials.
Job descriptions for key launch day functions will be provided for: Back Office Manager, Crowd Manager, Greeter, Product Demonstrator, and Security Support.
***Confidential Rogers Information. For Internal Distribution Only.***
This is the info given to me. As always, nothing is official until it's released publicly. But it all looks good!
THis was posted on HOFO by an credible sources. Others who worked for Rogers have also stated that this is the memo that went out. Take it for what its worth, but not bad at all (if it is true)
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