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McCain's VP pick (pg. 12)
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
You touched on the Democrats economic plans.I would like to see what the Republicans have in mind?and what they have to offer?so far in the last 3 days they havent said a word about economy.All I heard is DRILL DRILL DRILL as far as their energy plan goes.:o |
Look at the stance he's taking on taxes.
Bush implemented a tax cut for the country's highest earners (and corporations, I believe) in 2001 and 2003, and McCain intends to make those permanent. The high earner tax cuts expire soon and only benefit those making $250k+. He's promised lower and middle class tax cuts later, but wants to raise taxes on dividends and capital gains. I believe he also wants to halt the federal gas tax for 3 mths to help American's at the pump. (Kind of a silly proposition because who knows where gas prices will be by the time that ever gets implemented...it's just election rhetoric, imo.)
There was a really good piece in the Post last weekend some time on each party and the economy (yes I actually purchased and read the post, but it was the cottage and the post and celebrity magazines are acceptable there). |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
As for obama talking BS about nafta to win votes. I guess hes definately taking a page from the mcguinty handbook isnt he? And yet you guys would still vote for a guy that talks out of both sides of his mouth? Give me a break.
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haha. I actually don't think I can vote liberal any more because Dion is so not a PM, but I don't want to vote NDP and there's a few uncertainties about Harper that make me unsure. Nevermind that Harper just doled out $100M or so to prolong the pain at the Ford plant - a key issue for me that had previously brought me closer to the conservative side.
I'm looking forward to the debates in the coming weeks - unfortunately we don't get the kind of time and media coverage as US elections do, which I think provide the public more information and more time to make a decision. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
He's promised lower and middle class tax cuts later |
Even I'm not buying that. How many Republicans have promised across-the-board income tax reductions and never come through on those?
Count on one thing though: If Obama does get elected, taxes are going to go waaaay up. There's no other conceivable means of supporting his socialist policies. At least the elephants won't raise taxes.
Also, keep in mind one thing folks: in an economic recession, high corporate taxes are just about the worst possible thing to have, so even though there may appear to be no direct benefit to Joe Sixpack, lower corporate taxes may very well help him keep his job. Of course, the simplest macroeconomics seem to be beyond the grasp of most people here and most voters in general, so I'm expecting it to reflect negatively on McCain anyway... |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Of course, the simplest macroeconomics seem to be beyond the grasp of most people here |
Then why bother participating in this thread? If this board is so beneath you intellectually, do us all a favor and quit posting FFS. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Then why bother participating in this thread? |
For the sake of those outside the "most" grouping. I thought that was obvious.
I'm sure you'd like for me to quit posting. That will come at a time of my choosing, not yours. |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
For the sake of those outside the "most" grouping. I thought that was obvious.
I'm sure you'd like for me to quit posting. That will come at a time of my choosing, not yours. |
You are the same guy who tried to say that the Bushes aren't neoconvervatives right?
Macroeconomics eh? Hmm...it's kind of funny because, at best, economics is THEORY only and NOBODY can predict what will happen.
It's interesting that whenever the Democrats take over the Presidency, the economy in the US booms, but when the Democrats are ousted (Reagan, Bush senior, Bush junior), the economy practically goes into recession. There was a graph floating around here that measured economic growth in the US since FDR's time. But I'm sure you have a list of BS reasons to explain that away.
I love how you, an insignificant conservative message board poster on a ing EDM website, thinks you can predict exactly what's going to happen when Obama takes office. It's hilarious. |
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| hardcore trancer |
Here we go with Digi again putting everyone down and questioning their level of intelligence.:rolleyes:
Seiously in move to Florida and join the rest of your gang down there. |
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| KaiLee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Then why bother participating in this thread? If this board is so beneath you intellectually, do us all a favor and quit posting FFS. |
LOL *bows* |
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| KaiLee |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jayx1
I do agree with drilling as an option to persue right now. Until we are able to further our renewable energy we need to take what's there. I like T Boone Pickens' idea. Use the energy that we already have in north america now to buy time to develop REAL alternatives in renewable energy. The technology still isnt quite there yet. Why send trillions of dollars overseas when what we need is right here?
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I like Picken's idea as well...as long as it's done in a manner that won't rape the environment (it's been done before!). The US needs to steer away from their huge dependency on other countries for oil.
I watched Palin and McCain's speech and have grown to like them a bit more....still don't think either candidate is suitable for presidency but the last thing the US needs are the high taxes Obama will bring.
Hopefully someone can come up with an effective energy source ASAP so the rest of the world doesn't have to depend on these twattish countries. |
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| Dj Smitty20 |
what possibly made you like them more?
She's a reptitive, religous nutjob red neck and McCain has basically sold himself out to get the support of the conservative (rich, religious, white people) base.
He has offered nothing new on energy except an empty promise to drill more and seek out alternative energies (yet his record has seen him deny tax breaks for wind and solar power companies). He will just keep giving tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans and energy and oil sectors.
Do you like her more because she's a hockey mom and sold the state plane on *cue hick accent* "ebay" (actually not even true according to CNN)? Do you like McCain because he's a "maverick" (also proven not to be the case anymore) and because he's a "hero" from a war that's been over for 35 years?
Yeah...lots to like there. |
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| Skipper |
I went to see Religulous (Bill Maher's TIFF flick about religious extemism in the US) and as he introduced the movie of course Sarah Palin came up. He says "she's got 5 kids, THE REPUBLICANS CANT PULL OUT OF ANYTHING CAN THEY?!"
Isn't Pickens' plan mostly natural gas drilling and technology? I know there's an alternative energy component, but I thought gas was the focus. |
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| Jayx1 |
I like mccain because i really think that he is sincere. He says what he believes in whether or not it's popular. Kind of reminds me of someone. Haha. But i find that mccain has a lot to say about real issues as opposed to obama who really does rely a lot on rock star type hype.
As for Palin. It's interesting how the so called liberals have shown their true colours. God forbid anyone were to ever even suggest some of the things about clinton as they are flat out saying about Palin. The same people who cried sexism at any critism whatsoever about clinton are the same ones questioning her motherhood? For shame. Is Palin fit for presidency? Probably not. Is Obama? Doubtful as well. But as for the total package and how they would handle high office, i trust mccain far more than obama. Also Obama seems very mcguintyish when it comes to empty promises. I simply dont buy it |
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