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Whole country goes forwards and California goes backwards... (pg. 2)
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ReclusNdangrmnt
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Originally posted by FallingMoon
well what do you expect when you have the governat0r making decisions.


He opposed 8.
Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by Arbiter
That's kind of sad, although I don't think that government should be in the business of recognizing marriage at all.

Of course, the easy end-around of this amendment would just be to call state-recognized marriage something else, in which case the definition of marriage would be entirely irrelevant. Not that I'm condoning that, mind you.


Just to be sure I'm following you correctly... you mean have the word marriage reserved for the religious sacrament and term secular unions something different... civil unions or something of the same ilk?
MrJiveBoJingles
Why not just legally treat marriage like any other contract, with the terms specified by the parties that decide to participate, and then let them tack on to it whatever religious or secular or emotional meaning they please?
chach
I heard they also didn't pass the alternative fuels vote
iammesol
Epic fail.
josh rising
what a damn shame. i'm bummed, there's still 3 million votes left to be counted so all hope isn't lost yet though.
:(
malek
hahahahah
bas
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Originally posted by chach
I heard they also didn't pass the alternative fuels vote

Prop 7 was terrible. Riddled with loopholes and proposed by an independent company from Arizona that had nothing to do with energy whatsoever, and actually did more harm in the long run than good.. I voted against that too.

ps
Obama also opposed Prop 8.
verndogs
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Just to be sure I'm following you correctly... you mean have the word marriage reserved for the religious sacrament and term secular unions something different... civil unions or something of the same ilk?


Having the word "marriage" defined that way makes as much sense as having one water fountain for white people and one water fountain for "colored" people.
FallingMoon
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Originally posted by verndogs
Having the word "marriage" defined that way makes as much sense as having one water fountain for white people and one water fountain for "colored" people.


great way to put it. ^5

XaNaX
idiots, we straight people have subjected ourselves to the instutition of marriage for centuries, its about time we let gay people in on the pain as well
bas
On the news last night they were saying that Obama running for president actually hurt prop 8. More African-Americans in Southern California came to vote and tend to be quite religious/family oriented, and were more likely to vote yes on Prop 8.

I was in Orange County over the weekend for my brother's birthday, Yes on Prop 8 signs EVERYWHERE. Total shock to me, here in LA there were hardly any people that had Yes on 8 signs on their cars/lawns whatever, and when they did they were pretty harshly chastised.

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Originally posted by XaNaX
idiots, we straight people have subjected ourselves to the instutition of marriage for centuries, its about time we let gay people in on the pain as well

That is EXACTLY what I've been saying :stongue:

The reason gay people say their relationships last longer is because they don't get the opportunity to get married, fed up and eventually divorced.
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