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Dude I fvcking suck at making trance. (pg. 4)
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| cl0ckw3rk |
I have the same problem, honestly. I've been browsing these forums for a few years, scouring for advice, reading tutorials, practicing with some basic loops. At the end of the day it's all about having a good workflow and track vision. I always find myself falling into "loop vision" where I'm soooo incredibly focused on making one solid loop that I don't even think about how I will build up to it, or how it will fall off at a break. It's really important to remember that EDM is very very much about the movement of the track, not just a few loops. Now, I aim first to take a melody, a bass line, a beat, and make a very simple, amateur-sounding skeleton of a track. Then I focus on each part and just think what kind of dynamics would work with the track, and then it's about filling in the kinds of sounds that would meet that vision I guess.
And again, at the end of the day...Who am I to talk? :eyespop: |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
This thread really became gold to me with the advice mostly all of you left in here. It is probably the single most important thread I've read the whole time I've been a member here.
Just to see everyones specific philosophies and beliefs is huge, because I actually understand them. Mostly what I've learned that I didn't really see before this thread was over the years I've somewhat developed a style, I've fed into that style and reinforced it, but never really saw I had a "style", and how much its actually holding me back.
When I start a new track, I have this sort of relative mold I'm aiming for without even realizing, from the last hundreds of tracks I've started. And the reason I think I don't have direction, is because I thought my goal was to perfect my style, rather than actually change it around completely.
Some of the best artists I see can do this, produce multiple tracks that sound completely new and different and not like mirrors of the last. So the piano lessons at this point are becoming a must, and than after time I'll start to titrate that into developing something that stops blue balling people to death lol.
Great thread, printing this out and pinning to my board.. =] |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
| quote: | Originally posted by lenieNt Force
Well its about getting elements to work together mate.. and remember bass is a very essential part of it all in dance music. If you're bass sucks, everything else will suck, cause bass is the major wave in the frequencyspectrum, all other waves will follow the wave of the lowest frequencies/ the bass. If you want to make people lose their heads on the dancefloor you gotta get your bass right.
And like I said its about getting elements to work together. And progressive trance means that the tune progresses over time, new elements is introduced in breaks, takeoff; all elements coming in including bass.. etc etc.. new elements going in.. and out towards the end.. and it follows a pattern. 4 bars, 8 bars, or 16 bars.
If you wanna learn how to make good music you gotta listen to good music. No not just listen, listen ANALYTICALLY. Concentrate on seperating elements, listen to one at a time, listen how they complement eachother, fill eachother out. What has the producer done here to get this sound? How has he done this? If you can answer those questions, you can do it yourself. Can you answer those questions?
Being able to make good music is a talent, thats the cold naked truth. Some have to work some more at it. Just as you might be born a good dancer, born having good rythm. Not everyone in this world has rythm. But being able to maintain focus for a long period of time is also a talent. And with focus and time, you will acquire skills. Some progresses fast cause they have the music inside. Chordprogressions comes naturally cause its a way of expressing what they feel. Telling a story. Telling a story is also a talent, but if you read a lot of books you'll get even better. You start reading music!
Now, go watch this vid and see what I mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whpcTtQ6eto |
That vid is ing ridiculous. Insane skills. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
Yeh dude is flawless. I went to google his name to see how known he is and wilkipedia has a picture of a skinny white guy named Ryan Tedder. Def not him lol. |
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| music2dance2 |
that dude is the ! Awesome
Will post my 2 cents on this thread topic later. |
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| lenieNt Force |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
That vid is ing ridiculous. Insane skills. |
Affirmative.
He's about to kill someone with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIc_q03oEnE
Whooohohohohoho Yes it's ridiculous.. Its bananas!! Caution!!
Thats what I'm talking about.. Straight from his heart right there. |
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| BshidoHEAT |
| Yea Ronald Jenkee is an absolute maniac, but the good kind of crazy. |
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| oppressor |
| nothing more to add to this topic other then dividing your time between starting from the bottom (making things work). then from the top pulling on the good stuff. ie strings,pads synths and keys. |
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| oppressor |
| nothing more to add to this topic other then dividing your time between starting from the bottom (making things work). then from the top pulling on the good stuff. ie strings,pads synths and keys. |
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