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Dude I fvcking suck at making trance. (pg. 5)
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| oppressor |
| nothing more to add to this topic other then dividing your time between starting from the bottom (making things work). then from the top pulling on the good stuff. ie strings,pads synths and keys. |
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| cryophonik |
I'll add one more thing that is probably relevant to many of you, but not others. If you're not happy with what you're coming up with, then maybe you just need to change your approach, particularly if your approach is to sit at your computer and click notes into your piano roll using your mouse. To me, there is nothing less musically or creatively simulating than that. If this is your approach, try doing something completely different that doesn't require you to be shackled to a computer. Close the door to your studio and go nuts - bang on some drums or percussion, start playing chords/melodies on a piano or synth, crank out some chords on a guitar, etc. If you don't have an instrument like these to play, then fire up a soft synth, find a basic sound that you like, TURN OFF YOUR VIDEO MONITOR so it doesn't distract you and bring you back to your comfort zone/old habits, and focus on playing and being a musician.
Also, if you don't have a keyboard controller, then get one. Which brings up a somewhat related point - I think the worst advice that I see regularly on these forums is that when someone asks what they need to get started, some people will tell them that they don't need a keyboard controller. Whenever someone gives that advice, I usually try to hunt down some of their music and, almost invariably, I find that their music is stale, repetitive, boring, and void of good musical ideas. That's not a coincidence. |
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| MOK |
I found in my last project that I come up with vastly different directions of creativity when I switch between working in MIDI to working with slicing audio.
Try it. |
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| pwnage1 |
| I just got a midi keyboard after a year of not having one. Best production purchase i have ever made, and probably will ever make. |
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| Stef |
| quote: | Originally posted by MOK
I found in my last project that I come up with vastly different directions of creativity when I switch between working in MIDI to working with slicing audio.
Try it. |
Likewise, i have grown to quite enjoy exporting certain things to audio and then working with them. |
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| Storyteller |
Knowing when to commit to certain parts is an important skill to have :)
It's terrible to keep working on a part isn't working or isn't 100% as you would wish it was. :) Either take it or lose it if it starts to take to long. Otherwise the track just won't get finished |
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| SoundMagus |
What about finding a partner.
I know of several succesful DUOs and the reason they are successful is that one of them loves to creat bass sounds, kicks, leadsa etc and the other loves to arrange, maybe you should try and find someonle you can bounce of off.
Also what about changing your DAW? It could be that the one you are using now is ANTI-YOU !! you may think you are comfortable with it and may very well be but that doesnt mean its the correct daw for you, maybe one of the others will spark more creativity in you, help your workflow better etc.
also what about trying to make a different genre to the music you are currently producing !!?!! This may seem radical but it often works to inspire new ideas and get those creative juices flowing in unexpected directions - give it a go.
BUT MOST OF ALL !! stop trying too so hard, produce the music for the love of the music, enjoy yourself, have some fun.
something i like to do is have some friends over who like the same music as me and have a "beer drinking crazy production day" where me and some friends WHO DONT PRODUCE sit in front of the pc and they tell me what they want and i do it, most of the time its utter nonesense sometimes its just bad but the main thing is i have a laugh with my mates and they get the buzz out of hearing crazy synth sounds, creating mad drum loops and sometimes recording their drunken voice and chopping it up and doing crazy stuff with it, th epoint is its all about enjoying the process and having a laugh with my mates.
So get your head out your ass and start enjoying your music production for what it is, great fun, inspiring creativity which sometimes goes very very well but sometimes doesnt - ENJOY YOURSELF !!
all the best,
Mark |
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| cryophonik |
| That's some excellent advice, SoundMagus. |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MOK
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I don't know where the you came from, but my god you're an awesome poster. |
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| MOK |
Thanks!
Uh, what prompted that? |
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| SoundMagus |
Thx for comments but thats just the way i see things, it makes perfect sense to me to follow some of the steps i mentioned, and i try to do at least one of them every couple of months although being a teacher of Cubase i get varied people to @work@ with constantly which is great ;)
SM |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
This actually parallels exactly what SoundMagnus said about making music with friends and beer.
A true story:
I NEVER EVER EVER make rap music, mostly just trance.
One night my brother and some friends were over and we were all drinking.
I opened FL Studio and we were just ing around with the mic and some beats. At some point our chocolate lab was barking and we had the brilliant idea to make a rap song of our dog barking. (while we're chasing him around with the microphone)
It was one of the funnest nights that we basically did nothing. Anyway we made a rap song called "Puppinator" with my brother, our dog, and vocals from a message his gf left where she had cursed him out. The next day everyone woke up and we listened to it, sure it was a complete joke, but the track really is hysterical (for us) and sounds pretty good for just doing what ever the hell came to out minds.
Little crap like that DOES make a huge difference though I will admit.
This was the track lol:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5.../PUPPINATOR.mp3
I still never get tired of listening to it. =] |
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