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Dude I fvcking suck at making trance. (pg. 7)
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| Nightshift |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
I'll add one more thing that is probably relevant to many of you, but not others. If you're not happy with what you're coming up with, then maybe you just need to change your approach, particularly if your approach is to sit at your computer and click notes into your piano roll using your mouse. To me, there is nothing less musically or creatively simulating than that. If this is your approach, try doing something completely different that doesn't require you to be shackled to a computer. Close the door to your studio and go nuts - bang on some drums or percussion, start playing chords/melodies on a piano or synth, crank out some chords on a guitar, etc. If you don't have an instrument like these to play, then fire up a soft synth, find a basic sound that you like, TURN OFF YOUR VIDEO MONITOR so it doesn't distract you and bring you back to your comfort zone/old habits, and focus on playing and being a musician.
Also, if you don't have a keyboard controller, then get one. Which brings up a somewhat related point - I think the worst advice that I see regularly on these forums is that when someone asks what they need to get started, some people will tell them that they don't need a keyboard controller. Whenever someone gives that advice, I usually try to hunt down some of their music and, almost invariably, I find that their music is stale, repetitive, boring, and void of good musical ideas. That's not a coincidence. |
Win: this post is full of it. |
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| Nightshift |
can you upload these samples to a diff site or something? fileden does not seem to work for me.
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| DJ Robby Rox |
*Nightshift - Yes absolutely, I'll get it up right now.
edit: sorry my fileden seems to have expired. And all my tracks are on my computer which is getting formatted still. I was suppose to get it back today but its talking a bit longer then excepted, should definitely be back by tommorow and I'll bump the thread.
*Hexa - Yes you are absolutely right. It would be funny however if we DID live in a world where everyone was cut out for music, then think about how much higher out standards would be?
And fact is even in that situation we'd raise our demands (inevitable selfishness of human nature) higher, and would consider people like Tiesto newbies. I guess everything is relative in life.. |
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| mysticalninja |
| There is no music gene. Creativity is learned. Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, they weren't born that way. They were raised that way. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
There is no music gene. Creativity is learned. |
Bull. |
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| parafrNalia |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Bull. |
If you are going to disagree so strongly, at least put up an argument. |
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| DJ Robby Rox |
| quote: | Originally posted by parafrNalia
If you are going to disagree so strongly, at least put up an argument. |
I think he might mention that if we are able to have genes that determine physical characteristics (height, hair color, etc) then why wouldn't we have genes to determine creative characteristics (music, art, etc) as well?
lol just guessing.
I think this all goes back to nature vs nurture, most things being a combination of both, and it being impossible to disprove the role of one over another.
(ie. What makes a basketball player better his height or hand to eye coordination?) Then one person says handeye coordination you learn and aren't born with.. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by parafrNalia
If you are going to disagree so strongly, at least put up an argument. |
Why? He didn't either.
But yeah, what he said there above me. You can learn to be somewhat creative but you're going to need talent to be truly exceptional. |
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| parafrNalia |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Why? He didn't either.
But yeah, what he said there above me. You can learn to be somewhat creative but you're going to need talent to be truly exceptional. |
I suppose you are correct there. Talent isn't learned obviously, so some people can only reach a certain level.
I would guess that Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart had some talent from birth. ^_^ |
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| mysticalninja |
Hah. The concept of a talent gene is funny. The hyper-geneticists who are trying to find the democratic gene, the gay gene, or the criminal gene have instilled this false notion of predetermined creativity into the psyche of the public.
Alot of people think the right person just comes along at the right time and invents something new magically out of thin air. This isn't how it works. The environment creates the conditions that pushes that creativity. Anything you invent is not really you inventing it, it is society as a whole, you just happen to be the vessel that it takes place through. Everything you do is built upon the work of others and those before you. Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, were all raised by musicians, and put into musical environments. Talent and Creativity is simply rearranging your input in creative ways. Einstein learned mathmatics and newtons laws at an early age. He was kicked out of class at 16 for argueeing with the teacher that the 'laws' were fixed. He was rearranging his input in creative ways. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| It's the Illuminati! |
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| Timothy |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
Hah. The concept of a talent gene is funny. The hyper-geneticists who are trying to find the democratic gene, the gay gene, or the criminal gene have instilled this false notion of predetermined creativity into the psyche of the public.
Alot of people think the right person just comes along at the right time and invents something new magically out of thin air. This isn't how it works. The environment creates the conditions that pushes that creativity. Anything you invent is not really you inventing it, it is society as a whole, you just happen to be the vessel that it takes place through. Everything you do is built upon the work of others and those before you. Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, were all raised by musicians, and put into musical environments. Talent and Creativity is simply rearranging your input in creative ways. |
Then explain to me how a 15 year old kid is able to run pro times of adult athletes if genetics are not factor. Nowadays this 15 year old kid is making people jaw drop at 23 years of age by breaking world records after world records.
If genetics are not a factor, then how come women cannot drive as good as men? :stongue:
You need to be born with the right genetics if you want to succeed in a particular area. Just need to find what you got a talent for and make the best out of it. |
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