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| Storyteller |
| I totally understand where you are coming from. It would be ideal if there's a gear store close by so you can try some stuff. Hands on experience beats a thousand recommendations on how to spend your $ :) |
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| dj bamshad |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
I totally understand where you are coming from. It would be ideal if there's a gear store close by so you can try some stuff. Hands on experience beats a thousand recommendations on how to spend your $ :) |
i definitely agree.. we have a guitar center in our area but they never have moog voyagers laying around.. and the only other thing i liked was the little phatty by moog so im guessing i will love the voyager
cool tunes on your myspace btw.. 'sound' is dope |
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| Storyteller |
Thank you, it's in promo now, out next week on resonant vibes, in about 2-3 weeks on beatport XD
got to love shameless self-promotion.:stongue: |
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| dj bamshad |
| lol thread stealer..jk |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj bamshad
i definitely agree.. we have a guitar center in our area but they never have moog voyagers laying around.. and the only other thing i liked was the little phatty by moog so im guessing i will love the voyager
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Maybe you should check out craigslist or ebay . You could spot a good deal and sell it for about just as much if you won't like it :).
I just ordered myself one of these btw: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LiquidMixB/
20 different EQ emulations and 40 compressor emulations for less than the price of 3 waves plugins. ;) |
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| dannib |
Even though i reccommended the Voyager, i would reccommend going to a local music store and trying them first. After all it is an expensive purchase.
Dave smith synths are good. I own a prophet 08 rack and a mono evolver. The mono evolver is awesome for sound design. The p08 is awesome for pads, standard analogue sounds etc. They are both no where near the voyager for bass and blips etc though, if thats your primary aim?
The other reason i suggest a voyager is that it will keep its value over a long time. It will probably even go up in price over years to come?
If you invest in a virus ti for example, you will lose money in the long run on second hand prices. Look at the virus b for example. you can buy a second hand one for £300 if you look around. When they came out they costed around £1300 brand new.
If you want the best of all worlds you could probably get a second hand little phatty, MOPHO, nord rack 2 and virus b/c for the same price as a brand new moog voyager. This would give you the basic tone of the voyager minus 1 osc, less mod routings, no white noise etc. The mopho will give you a monophonic prophet 08. The nord and virus will give you everything else. I would much rather own a nord 2 and virus c than just a TI. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj bamshad
so what do you mean by firing down the length of your room i dont get it
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Your room is a long rectangle. At the moment, your speakers are facing the shortest length of your room. That is, the distance from the speakers to the wall (that they face) is not as long as if you spun everything around 90 degrees. The problem with this is that the sound from your speakers will bounce off the wall behind you, then clash with the "fresh" sound coming out of your speakers. This causes phasing etc, which is bad. If you spun it around 90 degrees, the sound would have further to travel before it hits a wall. Therefore, by the time it bounces back, it is of much lower volume (better).
| quote: | Originally posted by dj bamshad
and how about just putting those foam pads under the speakers?
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There are two separate issues here - positioning and decoupling.
The foam pads ONLY decouple your speakers. Your desk isn't big enough to position those speakers properly. The general rule of thumb is that your speakers should be as far from each other as they are from where you sit. For near field monitors, you aim for about 90-120cm. At the moment, your speakers are about 1.5m apart, but only 40-50cm from you. You need stands.
| quote: | Originally posted by dj bamshad
and you lost me at the whole 'buy some absorptions panels and put them....need some absorption behind them too." part i need to put absorption panels right behind the speakers and behind where im sitting?
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Put ABSORPTION panels on the walls to the left and right of your chair. When the sound comes out of your speakers, it will bounce off the walls to the left and right of your chair. These reflections will be of very high volume as there won't be a lot of distance between your speakers and the wall - unlike the reflections which come off the BACK wall.
Your monitors are rear ported, meaning all the bass goes out the hole in the back. Hence, you get reflections coming off the wall behind the speakers. With front ported monitors, you don't have this problem. Sometimes it is necessary to put absorption behind the speakers, other times it is not. This is up to you.
Put BASS TRAPS in all corners. In a room this small, the low end will be an absolute mess. After positioning all your gear properly, bass traps are the next most important thing.
Normally you put absorption on the rear wall too, but there seems to be some kind of closet there. If you fill that closet with stuff and leave the doors open, it will have the same effect... But realistically early reflections and bass are more important.
Don't underestimate the importance of all this. $2,000 monitors aren't worth if they aren't positioned properly or the environment has poor acoustics. This is MUCH more important than buying any new synths. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj bamshad
yeah he uses that, the voyager with a bunch of mooger foogers and some other . i messed around with the fxpansion synths at the namm show a few weeks ago and they were #1 on my synths to buy list, comes out in march they said.. cant in wait
but the point is I WANT A DAMN HARDWARE SYNTH.. its like watching porn..its great and all but sometimes you need the real thing ya know lol
and i am over the waves i'd rather give it to someone to master for $40 |
How can he have been using these FXpansion plugins two years ago if they're coming out in march:clown:
I think there was some mention that he actually used an arturia emulation of a moog and just tweaked a preset (called china something).
Realistically, theres no way you should be buying a $3000 monophonic synth just to make some daft overdone sound that was boring last year, let alone this year. Buy a versatile poly synth which you'll actually use in a year or two. If you had 3-4 synths already then I'd understand it, but having a moog for your first HW synth is just silly IMO. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by dannib
The other reason i suggest a voyager is that it will keep its value over a long time. It will probably even go up in price over years to come?
If you invest in a virus ti for example, you will lose money in the long run on second hand prices. Look at the virus b for example. you can buy a second hand one for £300 if you look around. When they came out they costed around £1300 brand new. |
If thats the main consideration then you can't really go past a nord lead 3 IMO. Pretty sure the value on them is going up if anything. Its true that even a second hand virus TI will lose money once the next generation comes out. Prophet 08 might be ok though, assuming he doesn't bring out a direct upgrade. |
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| Existo22 |
The waves are 10 years old now! Here is what you should get. ;)
Universal Audios UAD-1 (Used on ebay ) with 1176 compressor, LA2 Limiter, pression limiter.
$500
sonnox oxford eq (the native version) so you don't max out your cards.
$250
Tc powercore mk2 e (used on ebay ) with access virus synth plug in, novation, and the world class vss3 reverb that is one of 2 software reverbs that compares to hardware.
$1400
that should handle all your processing.
Now sell your midi controller ($whatever) because it doesn't make any sounds and get a roland jp-8000 ($500)
To use as a midi controller and sort sounds from as well.
Thats it thats all you will ever need.
Analog sounds from sampled analog instuments could be sorted from the trilogy plug-in!
F**k paying $3000 for an analog synth. It limits you to one sound the ''moog sound''.
Don't get me wrong moogs sound great but ask yourself is that really all you want to do with your 3000?
Now if you can find a vintage prophet 5 or or a jupiter 8 and you really want to spend 3000 on a single instrument then go for it (I personally wouldn't)
There is kids out there making hits with much less then what you already got! |
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| thecYrus |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
How can he have been using these FXpansion plugins two years ago if they're coming out in march:clown:
I think there was some mention that he actually used an arturia emulation of a moog and just tweaked a preset (called china something).
Realistically, theres no way you should be buying a $3000 monophonic synth just to make some daft overdone sound that was boring last year, let alone this year. Buy a versatile poly synth which you'll actually use in a year or two. If you had 3-4 synths already then I'd understand it, but having a moog for your first HW synth is just silly IMO. |
a lot of producer are working as beta tester for some audio software companies.
as far as i know deadmau5 has used the fxpansion d-cam synths in more than 50 tracks already. |
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| Storyteller |
| That's more or less what I've heard as well :). |
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