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| dj bamshad |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
Well, it's short and not a whole lot there, but from what I heard on my work speakers, nothing there suggests that you have a bad mixing environment. If bass response was a problem, you'd hear either excessive boominess or noticeable weakness in the low frequencies on other systems. That's just not the case here from what I can tell. It actually sounds pretty balanced. So, I give you permission to buy a synth with your money. Besides, there's a lot to be said about owning and using a quality instrument. It's more fun and will likely improve your musical skills, sound design capabilities, etc. In other words, it will help you become a better musician, whereas room treatment will help you become a better engineer. Guess which one the girls prefer? |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| There's such a ludicrous overemphasis on mixing and mastering among today's producers anyway. To listen to some people you'd think that the key to making beautiful music is to have proper monitors and room treatment. |
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| pwnage1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
If he wants to get the girls through music, he shouldn't be making trance. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by pwnage1
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True, but he never actually said he was making trance. He could be making noise music, for all we know. That really gets the girls! |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
There's such a ludicrous overemphasis on mixing and mastering among today's producers anyway. To listen to some people you'd think that the key to making beautiful music is to have proper monitors and room treatment. |
I think its competitive so the best monitors or room treatment might make that difference between a good mix and an amazing mix. But like i've been saying in this thread, learning to make use of the equipment you have, having good ears and knowing your monitors, whether they are $100 monitors or $2000 monitors, is the most important. You can make good music in a untreated room if you know your room well. I don't know why anyone is putting room treatment above some other things. |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by pwnage1
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tiesto has a big boobered 19 yr old gf/wife. schranz FTW. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
I think its competitive so the best monitors or room treatment might make that difference between a good mix and an amazing mix. |
Fair enough, but I think it's a bit sad if the main arena of competition has become the "amazing mix" or mastering job rather than the creative or melodic content of a track. |
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| cryophonik |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
...I think it's a bit sad if the main arena of competition has become the "amazing mix" or mastering job rather than the creative or melodic content of a track. |
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| pwnage1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kismet7
tiesto has a big boobered 19 yr old gf/wife. schranz FTW. |
Money |
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| Kismet7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Fair enough, but I think it's a bit sad if the main arena of competition has become the "amazing mix" or mastering job rather than the creative or melodic content of a track. |
A great mix seems to go a long way in dance music. That said, great mixes have allowed a lot of souless music to get out there. The reasoning is a well mixed and mastered track sounds good in the clubs and car stereos. It is hard for great melodic music to shine through if its not properly mixed and mastered, and the most creative people seem to be great at creating music that has feeling but poor at actually getting things to sound good. They dont know how or dont have the proper equipment (i'd fall under this.) So the producers who have the best equipment and best sound quality get the most love from the top labels and DJ's before the producers that are creating great music but have poor production qualities. Peronsally, im happy with the melodic and creative aspect to my music, at the moment my biggest limitation is sound quality which I'm working on and sharing what i've learned in the process. And having learned what I have, its actually good to mix and produce tracks on ty equipment first, and once it sounds good there, do the final tracking and mixing on good equipment. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
Stands are way more important than side panels. DJ RANN was debating the need for acoustic panels, not the need for stands. There's absolutely no point in buying acoustic materials until you buy stands and position everything properly.
For speakers this big, you might be better off building your own stands. I came up with a simple design, involving two pieces of wood and 3 PVC downpipes. This design is better than a lot of commercial stands, as the flexibility of PVC provides excellent absorption of resonance. Once you load the tubes with sand, you have a stand that will out perform anything on the market. It's cool too because you can set them to the exact height you want, whereas most commercial stands are fixed at less than ideal heights. |
+1. Exactly.
You can often make that actually works and fits better than bought stuff.
Basically, buy the voyager get your kit in the right place, make/get stands (it does make a huge difference to nearly all monitors) then figure out what treatment you need. |
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| Anarkey |
| quote: | Originally posted by cryophonik
Good point. I believe the hierarchy goes something like:
Singer > Guitarist > Bassist > Keyboardist > Producer > Audio Tech > Lighting Tech > Roadie > Drummer
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Story of my life. |
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