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Trance is dead(free sticks available for poking) (pg. 4)
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| palm |
i got the whole album in the mail, today listening to it now :) very refreshing stuff too! |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Great album indeed, and made almost entirely with software. ;) |
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| palm |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Great album indeed, and made almost entirely with software. ;) |
imagine what it could be with hardware lol |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kysora
People complaining about trance not focusing on percussion is completely asinine. Most producers don't focus on the perucssion because most listeners give it the same attention. As long as it serves as a formation for the bassline, the hooks, the overall sound, then there's no reason to go further than that. Though plenty producers still do. |
Listeners may not give "attention" to the percussion, but believe me, they hear it unconsciously, especially on the dance floor. |
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| palm |
| percussion is everything imo. together with a phatt baseline it is what makes the groove of a track, and really decides whether ull have a good time or not listening to it. |
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| DigiNut |
| Also, what really irritates me about the first track posted is that it's technically a breakbeat, so I want to like it, but it's all floaty, quantized, and has ZERO funk whatsoever. Stay the hell out of our genre, Armin! |
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| Kysora |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Listeners may not give "attention" to the percussion, but believe me, they hear it unconsciously, especially on the dance floor. |
The only percussion that would actually be important at a subconscious level on the dance floor is the fundamental beat that drives the rest of the track, and in most instances, that's the typical 4/4 beat.
I'm not saying it's not important at all, but complexity and variety in the percussion line is not something that's realistically important. If a song is well written, has a catchy/epic/emotional melody (or whatever you're going for) and harmonically supports it well, nobody's going to bash it because the percussion didn't vary outside what most people already expect from trance.
Though really it's all a matter of opinion. People might listen to a song like that and think it's boring as hell because it doesn't do anything new with the percussion. I just think a well-written trance track can derive energy through its songwriting, not the percussion and a "phat" bassline. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| A producer who does not try to do anything different or exciting with percussion is unlikely to be the kind of producer who does anything very different or exciting with the synths sounds or melody either, IMO. The lazy habit of going immediately to bog standard sounds applies to all aspects of a track. |
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| Nightshift |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Also, what really irritates me about the first track posted is that it's technically a breakbeat, so I want to like it, but it's all floaty, quantized, and has ZERO funk whatsoever. Stay the hell out of our genre, Armin! |
LOL |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kysora
The only percussion that would actually be important at a subconscious level on the dance floor is the fundamental beat that drives the rest of the track, and in most instances, that's the typical 4/4 beat. |
You have no idea just how wrong you are. Do you ever go out to clubs, to non-trance parties? Have you seen the way people dance to a breakbeat vs. a four-on-the-floor? Or even just something with a groovy bassline and a bit of a swing? |
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| mfitterer1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nightshift
Progressive Trance FTW |
This is the problem; not everyone has realized that prog trance IS trance now. I love GOOD epic/euphoric but if you follow the scene closely you'll realize there is VERY little of it. There is TONS of really good prog. So people just need to learn that epic/euphoric is dead (mainly because it's been beat to death and is structurally predictable and boring) |
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| Nightshift |
| Deep House fa sho. its kinda boring to listen to but on the dance floor its pretty much orgasmic. |
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