Rich... I just watched all those video's you posted, and those were PERFECT examples of the style of music that has been boring me to death the past couple years. I hope that's not the music that you guys have been saying is getting better lately.
Miss Julia
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Originally posted by david.sound
Hi Julia! Good seeing you at Holden last time!
Incognito, Fairmont please!
You too David! :)
And yes, Fairmont please!!
72hrpartyanimal
this thread is awesome. very opinionated and very honest. its been a while since people have talked about different genres of music that is out there. keep up the discussion people and especially keep up the suggestions of great artists out there.
rizo
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Originally posted by 72hrpartyanimal
this thread is awesome. very opinionated and very honest. its been a while since people have talked about different genres of music that is out there. keep up the discussion people and especially keep up the suggestions of great artists out there.
+1
also julia since fake is already coming. lets hope for fairley + luke abbott (new release next week!) or petter!
Clovis
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Originally posted by Miss Julia
Thanks for everyone who understands me.
Rich... I just watched all those video's you posted, and those were PERFECT examples of the style of music that has been boring me to death the past couple years. I hope that's not the music that you guys have been saying is getting better lately.
:stongue: :stongue:
Miss Julia
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Originally posted by Clovis
:stongue: :stongue:
Oh geez, well I guess I'm out of luck when it comes to music these days, until they switch it up lol. :(
Miss Julia
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Originally posted by rizo
also julia since fake is already coming. lets hope for fairley + luke abbott (new release next week!) or petter!
Oh YES! That just made my heart skip!
Gerard & Alan, I'll do the decorations for the night when this happens ;). I'll bring in a bunch of windmills and clouds and stuff to make the place look Border Community-ish. It's gonna look really cute! (that's the female in me talking... I love decorating) :p
Clovis
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Originally posted by Miss Julia
Oh geez, well I guess I'm out of luck when it comes to music these days, until they switch it up lol. :(
lol
I dunno what to tell you. I usually don't go by youtube videos to ascertain music quality, personally.
The important thing is to enjoy going out, and enjoy yourself, so if those are not happening when you go, a change of scenery is probably the right thing.
alan
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Originally posted by Clovis
I'm not sure what you're getting at here since I do not book acts or throw parties. The parties I enjoy have artists who play a wide variety of great music, from all over the 4/4 spectrum from chillout to techno. Ewan Pearson ended his set at the Standard with a track from the Talking Heads. And yes, my personal taste does usually dictate what I think is good, that is usually how it works with most people. I don't care what other people think, or how many awards someone has or what their DJ Mag ranking is.
I opened the Standard in september starting at 90 bpm, going through dub, breaks, disco, house, minimal tech, and tech house and ending at 120 bpm. Later on troy pierce played techno and magda dropped electro and some old school jams. Like Julia, I was not a huge fan of what she played, but I always like the way she plays music and find her interesting to see.
Yeah again, I don't book DJs, I am one. As for the parties I like to go to, I don't like parties where DJs play genres, or where the flyer has a laundry list of categories for the evening. I like DJs who play good music, regardless of what it happens to be labelled. Djs who will play whatever feels appropriate at the time and aren't afraid to step out of bounds.
I don't go out to listen to Drum n Bass. If I wanted to, I'd go to some of the DnB events that go down in this city. I don't think most Drum N Bass is that good and in my opinion it is not conducive to long parties of the kind you could find in Europe. As for 'soulful house', lots of the DJs I have seen over the past year have been known to drop house jams, from the 90s and up. Three, Shaun Reeves, Dyed Soundorom, Dixon, Danny Howells...I could keep going.
You're attempting to box in artists that you really know nothing about. Where the best DJs in the world are concerned, in my opinion, genre tags are useless, so saying these people are just house & techno guys is a misstatement.
Fair enough, you dont book, you are a DJ, but the question was hypothetical so I can check your logic behind it.
Second, obviously you just dont want to get boxed into a genre. But whatever you do, perception is king. Consumers see you play as such, as some DJs are seen as such. Nothing wrong in that. I answered a question to Julia, and she understood what I meant. But let me go further and try to explain.
As Robtronic points out, "All of us do that are known for it, but because the branding we do is so laser like to get traction and attention with certain genres, its easy to think that's all those of us in that area (currently) do." That is my point, thats what some events are known for, one cannot change brand equity and personality overnight.
You can always play one song to change it up, surprise the crowd, tickle them, etc. But again, from my side of the fence, consumer perception defines reality and most events in the industry do have automatic associations, regardless if they are reality or not.
Deep can book Tiesto, but Tiesto will always be known as a Trance DJ. And yes, Cache has been to a party at someones home where Tiesto played Deep House all night. But he will still be perceived as a Trance DJ, as Deep will always be perceived as a Deep House night, and Compression & Droid will be known for more Techno/House. Yes, Compression and Droid can play Hed Kandi house or mashups even, but their branding is so ingrained to consumers minds, that thats what they will remember. And movement to a different genre will be hard in terms of booking DJs. That is why Rob has Boombox, then Compression, then whatever comes next. He can't brand extend, he launches new brands. That is because the same constraint that restricts him, restricts anyone who is associated with a genre or style of music (and yes it can be changed, takes some time and marketing, but it can).
Also you say I'm "attempting to box in artists that I really know nothing about....just house & techno guys is a misstatement". For some weird reason, I'm not so sure you know the artists as well as you think they do? I don't pretend to be a DJ, nor pretend to be a know it all, but I can read and a cursory check of their OFFICIAL biographies say otherwise. Unless of course they were lying or mistaken about their own music. See below:
Three:
"Three is a "DJ's DJ" who has always leaned toward the cutting edge without losing touch with the roots of HOUSE and TECHNO".
Shaun Reeves:
While searching deep in the back catalogue of HOUSE and TECHNO for forgotten tracks that sound decidedly fresh and exciting, Shaun remains committed to pushing all genres of dance music forward. His is music not just for the dance floor, but also for the body, soul…and brain. As the recent resurgence of interest in the border between HOUSE and TECHNO makes all too clear, Shaun has always been one to set musical trends rather than follow them.
...I could keep on going as well. And its peculiar that they dont mention any other genre in their official bios, except...House & Techno.
As Robtronic mentioned he will not book Marshall Jefferson, while we have. As the parties you just play in will never play DnB, we have already. But we have booked John Selway, Ida Engberg, James Holden, Kollman, Larry Tee, Santiago & Bushido in the same breath, and recently had DJ Kerry play to open up for Chymera.
To each his own. If you as a DJ dont think some other events have constraints in booking DJs, then so be it. As for me as an event organizer, its clear as daylight they do. Again, there is no wrong path in either way.
To consumers like Julia etc, she might not like our Ekkohaus night. And she obviously loved it when we booked James Holden & Ricardo Tobar. But if we bring in the numbers and if we satisfy the needs & wants of our ever growing loyal consumer base and each night expand their musical taste to what we think is good music, regardless of genre, then to us, we have achieved one of our objectives.
Jim Carson
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Originally posted by Miss Julia
Thanks for everyone who understands me.
Rich... I just watched all those video's you posted, and those were PERFECT examples of the style of music that has been boring me to death the past couple years. I hope that's not the music that you guys have been saying is getting better lately.
You should come out to the two parties I am throwing this weekend and hear some real music, Julia. ;)
The_Sounds
interesting thread. its been a while since we had a nice thread like this.
Incognito, FAIRMONT PLEASE
old vid, but can anyone id the song that starts at 3:11?
Miss Julia
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Originally posted by The_Sounds
interesting thread. its been a while since we had a nice thread like this.
Incognito, FAIRMONT PLEASE
old vid, but can anyone id the song that starts at 3:11?
I LOVE LOVE LOVE this video!!! And ya that song at 3:11 ROCKS! Rizo, where are you for the ID? lol jk
I just read one of the comments on that video:
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honestly, so many times i find myself listening to this before i go out.. just to have something to dream about when i am bored with that crappy beat some en dj is playing, forcing all that ty percussion in to make people move.. so brilliant, this guy is.
See, even some random guy on youtube agrees that the music lately has been ty. That's why I like Border Community music so much, because it's the perfect combination of dirtyness, darkness, tech/house, and melodic (without the cheesyness).
