|
Anyone watching the Oscars 2nite? (pg. 13)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| Spam |
| quote: | Originally posted by stren
so are you speaking from experience of being in a bomb squad ? |
Looks to me like he´s reading books that do a disservice to the minority who find that, indeed, war IS a drug.
Also, ALL mining companies invade 3rd-world countries with tanks and infantry, in order to slaughter cities and villages so that they can dig for diamonds. So obviously, Avatar is much more detail-oriented than The Hurt Locker, heck, look at the trees. And it was in 3D DAMMIT! |
|
|
| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by stren
so are you speaking from experience of being in a bomb squad ? |
i know you're being facetious and all, but are you really that stupid? are you suggesting that the only way i could possibly know a movie is inaccurately portraying a profession is to be in that profession myself? as if someone in that profession couldn't just tell me exactly how it's being done wrong? as if i couldn't use common sense to detect the distortion myself? think about it. why even pose that argument when you already know i have the facts to make my point? when i have already outlined how it is inaccurate and provided you with a source that corroborates it from the words of an actual veteran? hell it doesn't take a genius to google a handful of articles written about how the movie is unauthentic. to read about how actual eod bomb techs laugh their asses off at how they are portrayed in the hurt locker. |
|
|
| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spam
Looks to me like he´s reading books that do a disservice to the minority who find that, indeed, war IS a drug.
Also, ALL mining companies invade 3rd-world countries with tanks and infantry, in order to slaughter cities and villages so that they can dig for diamonds. So obviously, Avatar is much more detail-oriented than The Hurt Locker, heck, look at the trees. And it was in 3D DAMMIT! |
that's a rather unimpressive straw man argument considering nowhere did anyone make the point that avatar is trying to portray reality. |
|
|
| R!CH |
| why did the hurt locker win best picture? well according to all the critical acclaim it got from hollywood press and the industry, it was for its authenticity. the movie is not at all authentic as explained by actual iraq war veterans and actual eod technicians, and thus the reasoning behind its recognition is mistaken. end of story. the storyline was just as uncreative as avatar's so i don't see how that becomes an argument against it. |
|
|
| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
it didn't suck as much as the others, a lot more time, effort, and attention to detail was put into making it, and on the whole it was much more accomplished as a project. hell they even had a renowned linguist come in and create a new language that was phonetically sound so as to be just as believable as everything else in the environment that they designed from scratch. also themes for me are a big thing. the hurt locker's themes were absolutely absurd. |
Story > Bull, pointless fake languages and movies that exist solely to demonstrate how awesome a special effects crew is
But hey, nice job buying into the hype.  |
|
|
| paulandrews |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
hell it doesn't take a genius to google a handful of articles written about how the movie is unauthentic. to read about how actual eod bomb techs laugh their asses off at how they are portrayed in the hurt locker. |
Yes, but these people are stupid and don't realize that movie realism != real life. Movies aren't supposed to be technically authentic, nor do they end up being exactly what their authors intended. You're probably the guy who complains that one second of a bomb countdown in an action movie is longer than a real-life second.
The Hurt Locker is first and foremost an action film as well, and its realism (and success) is in the way how it conveys emotions (tension, fear) of Iraq soldiers to the audience. If you want a perfectly accurate portrayal of a war, go watch a documentary. |
|
|
| stren |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
i know you're being facetious and all, but are you really that stupid? are you suggesting that the only way i could possibly know a movie is inaccurately portraying a profession is to be in that profession myself? as if someone in that profession couldn't just tell me exactly how it's being done wrong? as if i couldn't use common sense to detect the distortion myself? think about it. why even pose that argument when you already know i have the facts to make my point? when i have already outlined how it is inaccurate and provided you with a source that corroborates it from the words of an actual veteran? hell it doesn't take a genius to google a handful of articles written about how the movie is unauthentic. to read about how actual eod bomb techs laugh their asses off at how they are portrayed in the hurt locker. |
oh, so you think you know how it actually looks like. An I am stupid for thinking that you need to experience stuff to know what its really like... right.
Its just a dramatization, not a documentary so it is bound to be not 100% accurate to the real thing . But you saying that after reading some "googled" articles sounds like you're talking out of your ass |
|
|
| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by stren
oh, so you think you know how it actually looks like. An I am stupid for thinking that you need to experience stuff to know what its really like... right. |
you are hopelessly retarded. i guess if i see a war movie where navy seals are wearing clown suits, i can't really say if that's how it is in real life because i haven't really experienced it from their clown shoes yet! moron.
and let's not reduce my sources to "googled articles", call them what they are: actual iraq war veterans. google isn't even my source, that's just where i'm pointing you to verify what you already know is true. stop pretending i stumbled upon some high school blog. just deal with the fact that you can't argue the hurt locker deserved best picture based on the merits of authenticity. |
|
|
| stren |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
you are hopelessly retarded. i guess if i see a war movie where navy seals are wearing clown suits, i can't really say if that's how it is in real life because i haven't really experienced it from their clown shoes yet! moron. |
Name calling is always a good start to an argument
let me level with you;
you pea brained acne face, are you suggesting, the portrayal of the soldiers was so exaggerated , a housewife could tell the portrayals of the soldiers was 'unauthentic' ?
boob.
| quote: | | just deal with the fact that you can't argue the hurt locker deserved best picture based on the merits of authenticity. |
That was not what I argued at all. If you read my posts you would see I was sceptical at the fact it was the best picture. And as far as I know the academy doesn't consist of war experts, so they can only judge what feels authentic ( I'm not sure it was the justification for their choice anyway) |
|
|
| Clovis |
I can't judge this conversation since I haven't seen The Hurt Locker yet.
I do know however, that Avatar was a 3D special effects masturbation of epic proportions, with little real substance behind it. There was substance, but it was handled so atrociously as to turn the movie into a parody of itself. It was made to appeal even to those who need their emotions force fed to them via a tube of terrible music and disney like cliches, and it has largely reaped the benefits of that type of appeal. But for me the ends are not justified by the incredible means. None of the incredible work, wealth and effort that went into the movie means a damn if you can't find a story worth telling and tell it well. |
|
|
| Silky Johnson |
| You obviously have to be living in the moment to like Avatar. Try watching it mindfully next time, jerks. |
|
|
| R!CH |
| i heart passive aggression |
|
|
|
|
