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Anyone watching the Oscars 2nite? (pg. 7)
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by bas
That, and she made like 7928432 movies last year. I think winning both an Oscar and Razzie in the same year is some kind of record. |
I thought Hallie Berry did it before. Or someone. |
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| RapidFire |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
at what point in your life were movies most profound to you? when you were a child i hope. that's the beauty of avatar. it's more of a youth film, but with it's strong, positive, relevant themes, it has more potential to affect the real world and the next generation than some sensationalized war flick that glorifies stupidity. avatar is immensely popular around the world. it's the number 1 film in brasil, a country where deforestation and displacement of indigenous people are big issues. americans like to identify it with the native american story, but across the world it applies to other societies in its own way.
hurt locker is an alright, but overrated film. sure it tugs at your heart strings when you watch it, but that's expected when you distort the reality of war to fit a plot. if you ask anyone in the military eod, none of the major plot points in that movie are realistic. military protocol for dealing with ieds is to create a perimeter, send in a robot to place a small explosive next to it, and set the entire bitch off when all is clear. that's the reality of the situation, but that makes for a boring movie so they created a character who does stupid ass that violates all of the military's protocols. add in a female director who was once married to her only competitor in the category, a man whose openly stated he doesn't care if he loses to her, and you have a typical hollywood outcome. |
I wholeheartedly agree. its a powerful film with a great message (even if it is obvious). you do have to see it through the eyes of an innocent to appreciate it and i think its completely undeserving of the hate it gets. sure its not the best film ever made but its worth a look. at least I found it to be a rewarding experience |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by djhaziel
Can't believe I would a 48 year old without any shame ... and that 48 year old is demi moore :) |
I first thought you were talking about George Clooney |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
lol! you're right, avatar is so cliche! as opposed to hurt locker... and of course we know industrial strip mining is so sacrosanct that it would be crime to paint it for what it is: profit-driven exploitation and habitat destruction. you make your own interpretation by bring the military into it. there is no military in this movie, only mercenaries. do you understand the difference? you have eyes don't you? maybe you should open them and see what is happening in the developing world, hell even in appalachia as a result of resource extraction. of course that would be expecting a bit much of you to see beyond politics and labels. |
Technically labled "mercenaries" but they were referred to as Marines several times in the movie. Who's military has Marines? Ours. Who openly despises them? Left wing nutjobs like James Cameron. Believe me, it was no coincidence that all those Marines were portrayed as bloodthirsty ignorant rednecks... mowing down everything in their path while screaming "GIT SUM! GIT SUM!" and anxiously waiting for their next chance to be part of another atrocity. He also used the phrase "Shock and Awe" as the name of the military campaign against the natives... the same term Bush used for Iraq. Oh, and of course they were hired by an evil uber greedy corporation who's CEO, also not coincidentally, repeatedly said, "All we care about is the bottom line/quarterly stock report." James Cameron made outlandish characatures of both military personnel and corporate CEO's.
lol... but spare me the "mother earth is getting raped by the evils of the human virus" speech.
And, there were no cliche's in Avatar? Really? Who's eyes aren't opened?
1) Getting lost in a crazy jungle only to be rescued by a beautiful woman, who herself is a cliche of a tough no-nonsense independant woman.
2) Does she happen to be the chief's daughter? Check!
3) At first, does the tribe not trust him and want to kill him, only to have the woman intervene and wisely explain that it's their custom to take in strangers of their own? Check!
4) Is Sully then exposed to the native culture and put through a series of tests to prove his worthiness? Check!
5) Does Sully eventually becomes their strongest warrior and lead their tribe to victory over the evildoers? Check!
6) Do Sully and the woman fall in love with each other in the end? Double check!
You gotta stop hugging that tree long enough to pick up on those things, bra. |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lilith
After you've given them out in the past to the likes of Julia Roberts, Nicole Kidman and Kate Winslet it kind of puts it in perspective ;) |
Hey, Kate Winslet was amazing in Holy Smoke. |
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| Sushipunk |
I really shouldn't bother here, but...
Kevin, do you think that corporate large-scale mining and logging are bad for this planet? I understand that it's very good for the corporations that do that stuff, in terms of income, but I'm curious to know your opinion on an environmental subject (like this has become). |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Are you one of those guys that root for the bad guys to win cause it usually would mean a cool explosion? :conf:
I am always rooting for the bad guy in movies cause usually it will look cooler. :D |
yes! |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
You gotta stop hugging that tree long enough to pick up on those things, bra. |
What the are you talking about? I'm one of the biggest tree huggers here and I think avatar was a piece of o.o |
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| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by RapidFire
I wholeheartedly agree. its a powerful film with a great message (even if it is obvious). you do have to see it through the eyes of an innocent to appreciate it and i think its completely undeserving of the hate it gets. sure its not the best film ever made but its worth a look. at least I found it to be a rewarding experience |
i thought it did a couple of things well: (1) it achieved a new milestone in technical innovation in the industry and put in place the parts necessary for the next generation of cinema, (2) it reached an uncommon level of mass appeal around the world communicating a noble message, (3) it raised global awareness for displacement of indigenous populations, the destructive nature of resource extraction, the corrosive effect of wealth and power on people, the inadequacies of a single-bottom line approach to business, a greater appreciation for the natural world, environmental stewardship, mutual respect, etc, (4) it packaged these important themes in a visually stunning package that for us spoiled americans may not seem special, but to millions in other parts of the world are truly awe-inspiring and thus memorable and lasting.
for these reasons i think avatar is a clear winner. it's not because of the acting or the originality or how appealing it is to me personally, but because of the ripples it sends around the world as the highest grossing film of all time. it is all the more impressive that cameron topped his previous mark of titanic by creating something that delivers more message along with it. this is how attitudes are changed over time, by bringing visibility to the matter in ways that are not so bleak and depressing. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
at what point in your life were movies most profound to you? |
About 4 months ago when I watched 2001 Space Odyssey whilst blasted on K |
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| Sushipunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
What the are you talking about? I'm one of the biggest tree huggers here and I think avatar was a piece of o.o |
Lews: Based on your tree-huggerness:
Do you think that the following is a bad thing to teach children:
Mining and deforestation are bad for the environment, and have unforeseen issues. |
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| Lews |
| I would say that's a good thing to teach little kids o.o |
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