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Anyone watching the Oscars 2nite? (pg. 6)
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
at what point in your life were movies most profound to you? when you were a child i hope. that's the beauty of avatar. it's more of a youth film, but with it's strong, positive, relevant themes, it has more potential to affect the real world and the next generation than some sensationalized war flick that glorifies stupidity. avatar is immensely popular around the world. it's the number 1 film in brasil, a country where deforestation and displacement of indigenous people are big issues. americans like to identify it with the native american story, but across the world it applies to other societies in its own way.
hurt locker is an alright, but overrated film. sure it tugs at your heart strings when you watch it, but that's expected when you distort the reality of war to fit a plot. if you ask anyone in the military eod, none of the major plot points in that movie are realistic. military protocol for dealing with ieds is to create a perimeter, send in a robot to place a small explosive next to it, and set the entire bitch off when all is clear. that's the reality of the situation, but that makes for a boring movie so they created a character who does stupid ass that violates all of the military's protocols. add in a female director who was once married to her only competitor in the category, a man whose openly stated he doesn't care if he loses to her, and you have a typical hollywood outcome. |
pretty sure Avatar is the flick that wreaks of silly plot lines and a typical hollywood outcome. |
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| djhaziel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Really? I thought she was really good in Walk The Line. |
She def. was good , it's just funny how all these actresses , do tons of movies and then all of the sudden they get that one role that gets them to win the Oscar . |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by djhaziel
She def. was good , it's just funny how all these actresses , do tons of movies and then all of the sudden they get that one role that gets them to win the Oscar . |
I think that might be a problem with casting directors rather than the actors though. I mean actors gotta eat too, a lot of these people, while far better off than most of us, don't get the same huge roles the super A-list get and so they choose roles they know might not be the best for their career, but what can they do, gotta work. |
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| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
pretty sure Avatar is the flick that wreaks of silly plot lines and a typical hollywood outcome. |
that's because cynical, jaded adults aren't the target audience. do you hold disney/pixar films to the same standard? you're trying to make avatar into something it's not. that's your failing, not cameron's |
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| djhaziel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
I think that might be a problem with casting directors rather than the actors though. I mean actors gotta eat too, a lot of these people, while far better off than most of us, don't get the same huge roles the super A-list get and so they choose roles they know might not be the best for their career, but what can they do, gotta work. |
I see your point , but lets take for example reese w. before "walk the line "did she ever do soemthing close to good , something to be considered a respected actress ??? not at all she was doing trash cinema , all I'm saying here is that It never ceases to amaze me how inconsistent an actors career can be . |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
that's because cynical, jaded adults aren't the target audience. do you hold disney/pixar films to the same standard? you're trying to make avatar into something it's not. that's your failing, not cameron's |
No... I'm just tired of the same old cliches, regardless of how well they dress the film up with fancey schmancey graphics. I see it for what it is- an anti military, anti corporate social-utopian political statement from a hypocrite director... not some inspirational story that naive fantasy land living children would buy into. |
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| jupiterone |
i'm glad that the oscars have a little more dignity than the grammys
also, how can someone compare disney/pixar to avatar? |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
No... I'm just tired of the same old cliches, regardless of how well they dress the film up with fancey schmancey graphics. I see it for what it is- an anti military, anti corporate social-utopian political statement from a hypocrite director... not some inspirational story that naive fantasy land living children would buy into. |
Are you one of those guys that root for the bad guys to win cause it usually would mean a cool explosion? :conf:
I am always rooting for the bad guy in movies cause usually it will look cooler. :D |
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| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
No... I'm just tired of the same old cliches, regardless of how well they dress the film up with fancey schmancey graphics. I see it for what it is- an anti military, anti corporate social-utopian political statement from a hypocrite director... not some inspirational story that naive fantasy land living children would buy into. |
lol! you're right, avatar is so cliche! as opposed to hurt locker... and of course we know industrial strip mining is so sacrosanct that it would be crime to paint it for what it is: profit-driven exploitation and habitat destruction. you draw your own interpretation by bring the military into it. there is no military in this movie, only mercenaries. do you understand the difference? did you also know the protagonist is a marine? anti-corporate? like hurt locker is anti-arab right? you have eyes don't you? maybe you should open them and see what is happening in the developing world, hell even in appalachia as a result of resource extraction. of course that would be expecting a bit much of you to see beyond politics and labels. |
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| The17sss |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Are you one of those guys that root for the bad guys to win cause it usually would mean a cool explosion? :conf:
I am always rooting for the bad guy in movies cause usually it will look cooler. :D |
haha.. depends on the movie. For example, in Heat I was rooting for DeNiro and those guys to get away with everything. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
haha.. depends on the movie. For example, in Heat I was rooting for DeNiro and those guys to get away with everything. |
What about The Rock, oh or True Lies, two nukes in the same movie?
Haha Cameron directed True Lies... I should download that, that movie is hilarious. |
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| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Haha Cameron directed True Lies... |
omg what a hypocrite! and a democrat! a democrat liberal communist jesus-hating baby killer! |
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