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| woscar |
| quote: | SAN FRANCISCO - A federal appeals court in San Francisco upheld the use of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" on U.S. currency, rejecting arguments on Thursday that the phrases violate the separation of church and state.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel rejected two legal challenges by Sacramento atheist Michael Newdow, who claimed the references to God disrespect his religious beliefs.
"The Pledge is constitutional," Judge Carlos Bea wrote for the majority in the 2-1 ruling. "The Pledge of Allegiance serves to unite our vast nation through the proud recitation of some of the ideals upon which our Republic was founded."
The same court ruled in Newdow's favor in 2002 after he sued his daughter's school district for forcing students to recite the pledge.
That lawsuit reached the U.S. Supreme Court in 2004, but the high court ruled that Newdow lacked the legal standing to file the suit because he didn't have custody of his daughter, on whose behalf he brought the case.
So Newdow, who is a doctor and lawyer, filed the challenge on behalf of other parents who objected to their children being required to recite the pledge. In 2005, a federal judge in Sacramento decided in Newdow's favor, ruling that the pledge was unconstitutional.
"I want to be treated equally," Newdow said when he argued the case before the 9th Circuit in December 2007. He added that supporters of the phrase "want to have their religious views espoused by the government."
In a separate 3-0 ruling Thursday, the appeals court upheld the inscription of the national motto "In God We Trust" on coins and currency. |
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LOL, until when will people insist that the founding fathers of the United States were God loving Christians?
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| In before another COR religious war. :p |
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| leph555 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
In before another COR religious war. :p |
it's not a war but a massacre |
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| idoru |
| Separation of church and state. Anybody who supports that cannot argue in favor of keeping that phrase in the pledge. End of discussion. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
Yep.
Unfortunately these types will not be stopped till the gas chambers are full and the furnaces light the horizon like perpetual sunset. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| god keeep our land.... GLOOOOOOOOORIUS and free |
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| Lews |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
Separation of church and state. Anybody who supports that cannot argue in favor of keeping that phrase in the pledge. End of discussion. |
But... but our forefathers! We can't change what they said! |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
But... but our forefathers! We can't change what they said! |
And they said "separation of church and state". I know you're being rhetorical, but like I said, end of discussion. :p |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lews
But... but our forefathers! We can't change what they said! |
You mean the forefathers who in the 1950s added "under God" to the pledge in a gesture of anti-Communism?
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| jupiterone |
| ehhh, in time... |
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| w_ashley |
The indivisible thing is the catch all
one nation Under god indivisible - which basically means the nation is god, god is the nation - of course God is a germanic diety that is loaned in the bible where "Yaweh or Jehova YWH should be sort of weird that you would substitute the name of the diety for another one.
"The nation is the church of the people. = the assembly of peoples"
This is like the whole canadian anthem things "in all our sons command" - the whole GOD KEEP OUR LAND GLORIOUS AND FREE -
"in god we trust" - is the federal reserve the state?
How do you really recraft that.
Go flag go, go america? run batta bata?
or for in god we trust (one among many?)
or this is mint
"NOT COUNTERFIT!"
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| "Indivisible" refers to the nation, not to "God." The word "indivisible" was in the pledge long before the phrase "under God" was added about sixty years ago. |
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