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Obama healthcare passes (pg. 11)
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| jonSun |
| wow, i didn't know antarctica was so big. |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| you're joking right? Mercator projections make the higher latitudes look bigger because you are projecting a spherical surface onto a flat plane. :happy2: |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
you're joking right? Mercator projections make the higher latitudes look bigger because you are projecting a spherical surface onto a flat plane. :happy2: |
Jesus dude your sarcasm detector is ed. It's Jonsun, 1/3 of his posts are sarcastic.
Have you not seen that picture of him and his wife? :stongue: |
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| Joss Weatherby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Jesus dude your sarcasm detector is ed. It's Jonsun, 1/3 of his posts are sarcastic.
Have you not seen that picture of him and his wife? :stongue: |
yea, but it seemed totally off topic and random to be sarcasm... also icasm (patented) needs to have a ... after it. :p |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Chunky
This legislation is the epitome of the democratic party. They think with their hearts rather than their minds. Sure the idea of everyone having health care is great, along with everyone owning a 4000 sq ft home and a Mercedes. The reality is that these are inconceivable in a global economy and only those that work the hardest deserve these things.
Us tranceddicts are young and for this I understand why that majority on this forum are pro-health care, but when you are older and in higher income brackets and are nearing retirement you will think otherwise about this presidency. Not only will you not be collecting social security but you will also be responsible for paying these debts. All those who want to work until their 85 please stand up. |
Where was your ranting and raving when bush signed the prescription subsidy bill? Do you have any concept on how much that’s gonna cost?
You’re a ing moron. |
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| EvokeDesiderata |
| There are facts and attacks and a coin always has 2 sides unless it rolls |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by The17sss
History was indeed made today... for the first time in U.S. history, major legislation was passed that undermined a vast majority of the people's wishes. |
First, I'm just going to point out that this is blatantly untrue even in its most simple form. Do you have any idea what civil rights legislation numbers were like?
Second, and more important to your underlying claim, that most people are opposed:
| quote: | Echoing many on the right, Newt Gingrich today sent an email claiming, "In every recent poll the vast majority of Americans opposed this monstrosity."
But that just isn't true. A Kaiser Family Foundation poll found last week that Americans supported the legislation by a 46%-42% margin. The Economist published a poll showing that 53% supported the bill and 47% opposing it.
Today, CNN released a poll showing that will predictably be skewed by the right. It found that 59% opposed the Senate health care bill and only 39% supported its passage. Not a ringing endorsement, to be sure, but those numbers only tell half the story.
As we've been arguing for months, it's equally important (and more valuable) to ask why a poll's respondents oppose the bill. If overwhelming majorities believed the bill was an example of big government run amok, it would serve the GOP's purposes to promote the poll's findings.
But that's not what the poll showed. Luckily, CNN did ask respondents for their reasoning behind their opposition to the bill. They found that 13% of those polled opposed the bill because it was "not liberal enough."
This shows that 52% of Americans either support the current bill or wish it was even more "liberal" while 43% believe it is too liberal.
That hardly reveals that a "vast majority of Americans opposed this monstrosity." In fact, it shows that Democratic leaders carefully threaded the needle of public opinion. President Obama and Democrats in Congress successfully crafted a bill that is progressive enough for all but 13% of the country and falls well within the political mainstream, yet is still ambitious enough to deliver the much-needed change Americans desperately need.
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http://mediamattersaction.org/blog/201003220006
This still does nothing, though to remove my argument that most people, particularly the most vehement, have no idea what's in it to start with. |
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| Fledz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Jesus dude your sarcasm detector is ed. It's Jonsun, 1/3 of his posts are sarcastic.
Have you not seen that picture of him and his wife? :stongue: |
Haha so true, however on a somewhat related note...
What does he look like?
Is that him in the picture?
Is that really his wife?
Is he really black?
I must have the answers so I can complete my "Jonsun Schematic" achievement on xLife Live. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
Haha so true, however on a somewhat related note...
What does he look like?
Is that him in the picture?
Is that really his wife?
Is he really black?
I must have the answers so I can complete my "Jonsun Schematic" achievement on xLife Live. |
Fledz I have two short answers to all of your questions.
I have met jonsun. No. |
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| Fledz |
Nice, here's the full schematic of Jonsun then:
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| Joss Weatherby |
| The last real picture of jonsun i saw he had spiked guido hair and a mullet witha sweet bomber jacket. |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
First, I'm just going to point out that this is blatantly untrue even in its most simple form. Do you have any idea what civil rights legislation numbers were like?
Second, and more important to your underlying claim, that most people are opposed:
http://mediamattersaction.org/blog/201003220006
This still does nothing, though to remove my argument that most people, particularly the most vehement, have no idea what's in it to start with. |
OH SNAP.
See, this is why I asked him to provide sources outside of telling me "lol just Google it you noob". I'd be willing to put money that he was just spouting rhetoric from people he heard discussing the issue rather than going out and looking up the information himself.
| quote: | Originally posted by osterzone
Whatever, I'm done in this thread. |
Further backing-up my claim in another thread that he will post one or two wise-ass responses and then quickly bail from the thread once people start pointing out the idiocy in his posts. Par for the course there, buddy.  |
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