Originally posted by Subtle
Producers should have gotten money for tracks played in clubs by big DJs, a chunk of the entrance fee actually.
In some countries they do.
There is an industry body in Australia which all DJs have to register with. When a club hires a DJ they have to pay royalties to the agency who then distributes the money to producers. There are different categories for pop, radio, clubs, electronic etc.
However, it's not well-policed and doesn't work very well.
pzK
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Originally posted by Domesticated
In some countries they do.
There is an industry body in Australia which all DJs have to register with. When a club hires a DJ they have to pay royalties to the agency who then distributes the money to producers. There are different categories for pop, radio, clubs, electronic etc.
However, it's not well-policed and doesn't work very well.
We have the same thing in belgium, allthough this "body" is pretty corrupt and totally not transparant here. :p And they pretty much only pay out commercial performers & entertainers.
Ideally, the royalties should be given to the producers who got tracklisted but I doubt that is practically possible.
hardcore trancer
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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming
DJ's are now the rock stars in this decade earning too much?
That's the problem right there. They have become way too greedy that they dont even care what they play anymore.:(
we_R_DNA
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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming
This thing that saddens me is the Trance scene is dominated by commercial Euro Trance, and anyone that plays outside these boundaries wont get a look in. Barriers are put up by these people who support it, if anything these are the people that are alienating themselves from the rest of the scene, many think they are the authority on EDM.
I agree with you on this
and thus what we need is music that expands consciousness in real time.
I think it would sound like a piece I worked on a while back:
although that is subjective to say the least; for all I know the people who put up barriers might not even want to listen or understand where everything is going
Originally posted by we_R_DNA
I agree with you on this
and thus what we need is music that expands consciousness in real time.
I think it would sound like a piece I worked on a while back:
although that is subjective to say the least; for all I know the people who put up barriers might not even want to listen or understand where everything is going
You know that something is wrong when quality trance music is released by labels that are not even specialized in that genre. 95% of the Trance labels are releasing the same type of music. What I do not understand is how the smaller labels do not realize that by doing this they are only doing a favor to Armada and co.
djjoshuaallen
The trance that has been played in the big clubs over the past 4-5 years has become very boring. I think the popularity rise of beatport has to take some blame for that.
It has created a genre crazed following where everybody is so concerned with what you call the style or sound of a particular track. I think beatport has helped create boundaries for both producers and DJ's alike by the way they categorize their tracks and with the explosion of genres such as "electro" or "minimal tech". Many DJ's search for tracks only in 1 genre category because they want to be known as an "electro DJ" or "Trance DJ". Additionally I think producers often write tracks with an end result genre already in mind which may limit their creativity, making so many tracks sound the same
Lews
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Originally posted by John 00 Fleming
Would you not agree that things have turned around the other way, DJ's are now the rock stars in this decade earning too much?
The problem is that now the man playing the music is more important than the music itself.
Lilith
Electronic music is a funny animal in a sense that as soon as it crawls out of its house parties, warehouse raves and begins packing football stadiums and night clubs full of 'normal people' is that it seems to be accorded widespread, accepted legitimacy. To some extent some of the older people who grew up with it have trouble coming to terms with mingling with a different audience and the evolution of the music into a formulaic, popular genre which is often quite far removed from where it came from.
Think its a case of "Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet."
They might share a common middle ground during the evolution, but eventually it becomes divergent enough to alienate one group of listeners from the other.
Light The Fuse
all i have to add to this is - i agree with everything you are saying john :-) come back to melbourne soon - and itd be great if you could bring that blonde bloke with you !