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Depression and intelligence (pg. 2)
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
most geniuses are considered crazy, or at least eccentric.
As was posted above i really think it's a case of 'ignorance is bliss'
people who actually know how ed up the world is don't have many options except to have a bit of a negative outlook..
higher than average intelligence is also extremely lonely.
people who have no original thoughts (not that there's anything wrong with that) would never feel out of place...
the weird people who are capable of ACTUALLY independant thought often have nobody to consort with about these ideas... |
+1 for the most part.
How fun it must be to just go to ty bars and clubs and not give a that you are in such a pit of and live it up getting smashed like the rest of the toms. |
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| GoSpeedGo! |
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
people who actually know how ed up the world is don't have many options except to have a bit of a negative outlook..
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Solution: stop following the news. Seriously. |
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| wing |
Depression can be suffering or it can be a blessing. It depends on the individiual(I find myself saying this a lot on TA).
| quote: | Originally posted by Domesticated
Is it only intelligent, introspective and self-aware people who get depression? Or does anyone know a superficial, jock type who suffers from it? |
You should probably read this first to understand the different types of depression:
http://www.depression-help-resource...-depression.htm
Depression is an interesting topic. Many prophets, philosophers, artists, musicians, souls, gods have been spawned through hard times and some form of depression, temporary or continuous.
Martin Luther King Jr sums it up well:
"Only in the darkness can you see the stars."
Depression affects everyone differently, Just like Psychedelics, really. Give it to the right mind and out comes GOD in its many forms. Give it to those who aren't ready mentally and we'll have people jumping out of windows, become suicidal, like.
Depression is a journey and you're in control of its progression. How will you let it affect you? Will you reduce the pain by adding self induced physical pain? Will you look into the sky and ponder about your existence? your future, past and present? current state of the world?
Though one might not realize it when in a stage of depression, but it (can) acts as a natural medicine. It cures you of ignorance, selfishness, fraudulence, etc if you progress in that direction. I'm well aware depression is usually tied with super negative like Suicide, Mental Instability, Cutting wrists and what have you
Depression is misunderstood like LSD/Psychedelics, it's as if someone took a magnifying glass and hovered over the negative aspects, leaving everything else out of the lens. It can yield positive results if applied to the right mind. Take Jesus, Martin Luther King, Friedrich Nietzsche, Gandhi, Eyedea,Isaac Newton, Lira?(Lol JP I know nothing about the guy) for example.
I want to say one is better off naturally accepting this stage and indulging in it to find creativity, find yourself and all that no one wants to hear in the COLD C0R CHAMBERS, opposed to surpressing it with them pills and all, but I can't. There are too many forms of depression to take into account. Some much more serious than others where one can't find the light at the end so they just keep running in circles...
When you hit rock bottom, you either go up or go out. Some climb back up to their original state, some sky rocket to the clouds of creativity, some decide to check out the afterlife earlier than expected. |
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| you'd assume intelligent people would have intrapersonal intelligence to get themselves out of a rut. |
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| Sunsnail |
| that's some stupid bull wing |
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| wing |
WHAT?! SOMEONE READ MY POST? BULL!! :toothless
| quote: | Originally posted by Meat187
The COR is starting to annoy me with all these threads about suicide and depression lately. The is wrong with all of you?? Can't we go back to discussing funny cats, Slylee's mundane life and Deadmau5? :whip: |
DONT HINDER THE PROGRESSION OF TRANCEADDICT HOE!!
| quote: | Originally posted by EgosXII
the weird people who are capable of ACTUALLY independant thought often have nobody to consort with about these ideas... |
How true this is
| quote: | | people who actually know how ed up the world is don't have many options except to have a bit of a negative outlook.. |
Initially yes...eventually one will learn to accept our mess of a human history. That's the only way we can move foward properly :p
| quote: | Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
No doubt everyone gets depressed, but it certainly seems to me that deeper thinkers suffer the most.
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This could even flipped. What if deeper thinkers became this way through a temporary 1-4 year depression? Thanks to depression they've eventually reached this certain perception? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
that's some stupid bull wing |
i have to agree with the snail on this one. depression as a medicine? that cures you of selfishness? hahaha. depressed people are the most selfish ever! |
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| wing |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
depressed people are the most selfish ever! |
I can agree with that
YEAH but I'm serious about Depression acting as a medicine. It CAN be, but in most cases, it seems to cause more harm.
Perhaps I should've mentioned DEPRESSION + ISOLATION will yield different results than someone who's depressed but has a therapist, or is using facebook status updater thing/twitter |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by wing
Perhaps I should've mentioned DEPRESSION + ISOLATION will yield different results than someone who's depressed but has a therapist, or is using facebook status updater thing/twitter |
:stongue:
no. |
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| EgosXII |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fledz
"Depressed" is thrown about far too much, like many words these days. For most people they should be told "No you're not depressed, you're just a negative idiot that's using a clinical term as an excuse for your self esteem and inability to harden the up".
Just like the word "ADHD". "I'm sorry madam but your child doesn't have ADHD, they are just a terrible child and most likely because you're a parent that can't dish out any discipline".
I could go on....
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haha this is very true too, i was gonna go on a hipster art-wanker rant, but my rant was already long enough for that post...
i was at least referring to actually intelligent people (especially geniuses, who are exceptionally good at ONE thing (check tha dicktionary) but suck at most others), but the whole 'depression' thing has gone a bit out of control since the 2nd world war (when the developed world got more luxury than we knew what to do with)
this is why i was referring more to historical cases of genius also.. generally they're considered crazy in some way haha :p
| quote: | Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
Solution: stop following the news. Seriously. |
LOL i actually did recently because my real life dealings already bring out a horrible misanthropy in me without the horrible state of journalism these days... oh an i can deal with bad things, but i can't deal with the way they're expressed in the mainstream media... Australian news is some of the worst yellow journalism anywhere... Hunter S Thompson would go NUTS in aus :haha: |
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| DaRoZa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
How fun it must be to just go to ty bars and clubs and not give a that you are in such a pit of and live it up getting smashed like the rest of the toms. |
so getting intoxicated with friends and being the dark, brooding intelligent type are mutually exclusive states... i've been living a lie :( |
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