|
Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" Rally - Interviews With Participants (pg. 10)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| SuspicionVandit |
This will blow over. Another 20 years and this movement will be willingly segregated into some fenced ranch in Jesustown USA.
Funny crackpots.
The balls argument from Clovis is spot on. |
|
|
| we_R_DNA |
Don't listen to this douche nozzle known as Glenn Beck;
nothing to see or really hear from this man
false prophet
paid by big corporations to spit propaganda
hate speech, rhetoric |
|
|
| R!CH |
| thankfully most of these people will be dead from a coronary in 10 years |
|
|
| WittyHandle |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancypantzzz
yeah the great stimulus is being put to work down the street from me. apparently "creating jobs" means ripping up a major road during rush hour (that doesn't need paving btw) and repaving it causing a major traffic jam. got to have silky smooth roads and perfect bridges to transport all the chink garbage. |
The stimulus package is what you're going to blame for unnecessary construction? This is the first time you've ever noticed that? |
|
|
| Moongoose |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
HE WANTS TO INCREASE TAXES ON PEOPLE MAKING over 250k a YEAR OH MY GOD ITS SO HORRIBLE!
|
Dont play into his hand Clovis, saying he wants to increase taxes sounds like it was his idea in the first place. People like to scream, Obama is going to increase our taxes, forgetting that those tax cuts were designed to expire (also if i remember correctly they were required by law to expire due to how they were established in the first place). Sure, they could be extended (and will be for 95% of the country) but extending them for the top few percent...well the projection is that they will cause a budget deficit of over a trillion over the next 5 or 10 years (dont remember the exact number right now). How that works for the supposedly fiscally responsible conservatives, increasing the deficit by another trillion is beyond me.
Kevin, you and I havent yelled at eachother nowhere near enough for me to know all about you policies and beliefs. But this much i know, even though your right wing writings here make me want to pull my hair out and your belief in faux facts (reported by faux news) would make me want to slap you with something very hard (totally not a gay joke) if we were ever to meet in person (unless you bought me a beer first, then we would be bestest friends foreverest) this much i know. The people in power are not your people. The republican party is not your party. The republican party has go so far beyond conservative that its not even funny anymore. If it was still a party of small government, personal responsibility and sound economic policies then much less people would have problems with it today. But it is not a party of that anymore. Its a party of people like Sarah Palin, who believes she will see the christian end of days in her lifetime and is scared of witches; its the party of rand Paul, who believes that racial discrimination should be allowed and that social security and medicare should be put in the responsible hands of the completely unregulated private sector; and its a party of Sharon Angle, who thinks that social security and medicare should be abolished all together since they are what is making america spoiled and that women that were raped shoudnt be allowed to abort the rapists baby because whatever happened to them is gods plan. This are the faces of the new republican party today, these are the people you wish to be in power, these are the people that you believe will be able to make sound judgement in running a country. The people who want to tear down everything that was built up over the last hundred years or so. Thats on top of the what we had with the previous republican stint where the party of small government increased said government, tried to disassemble your much bellowed constitution and work on getting the government out of everything and everywhere except peoples bedrooms, because that is the one place that the government should belong in and set as much rules as possible.
Say youre a republican, defend republicans and vote republicans, but soner or later youre going to have to think about if the promise and legacy of the former party is where the party is now. If the promise of smaller government and responsibility isnt just something they say to appease the liberal wing of the republican party. Your party is slowly but surely moving as right as they can, how long do you think its going to take before youre considered a liberal? Think it cant happen? Who was the last judge to retire from the supreme court again? Appointed by a republican, considered a conservative when he took the seat, when he retired he was considered the liberal bastion of the court, and even though his replacement was appointed by someone you consider to be on the radial left (as if someone from the "radical" left could be elected in america at this point in time), she is more conservative than the other guy.
I could write a much longer and more eloquent reply of course, parhaps even coment on the republican obstructionism thats obvious to everyone except the viewers of faux news (why do the democrats need 60 votes to pass even the tiniest of things trough senate, when the republicans, when they were in power, required a mere 51?), but i cant be bothered. Im sick, im in my bed, my head hurts and i hate having a fever when its such a lovely day outside. it, im going to go watch mythbusters now, pehaps seeing things explode will make me feel better. |
|
|
| R!CH |
| quote: | Originally posted by R!CH
thankfully most of these people will be dead from a coronary in 10 years |
ha, well-timed...
Bitter truth: Anger is dangerous to you
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...F4FEB.DTL&tsp=1
Mental health experts who read the study said that people who view the world from an antagonistic perspective - who think everyone's out to get them, and who don't trust others - are almost definitely quick to anger, and also more stressed and vulnerable to heart disease, than people who are evenly tempered. |
|
|
| hardcore trancer |
| Question for you guys, I'm sure we can all somewhat agree that your country is divided in lots of issues (correct me if I’m wrong) these days. My question is could all this anger and disagreements lead to a civil war eventually? Could all this turn into a disaster at some point? Or is this all talk and that’s all there is to it? |
|
|
| Comrade Stalin |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Question for you guys, I'm sure we can all somewhat agree that your country is divided in lots of issues (correct me if I’m wrong) these days. My question is could all this anger and disagreements lead to a civil war eventually? Could all this turn into a disaster at some point? Or is this all talk and that’s all there is to it? |
I would say the furthest it would go is extremist groups doing something stupid, like plotting to assassinate the president. We already have a huge uptick in radical right wing militias though but they do not have any widespread support beyond their hillbilly cousins. |
|
|
| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Question for you guys, I'm sure we can all somewhat agree that your country is divided in lots of issues (correct me if I’m wrong) these days. My question is could all this anger and disagreements lead to a civil war eventually? Could all this turn into a disaster at some point? Or is this all talk and that’s all there is to it? |
The divide between the educated and poorly educated in this country is becoming extremely large and I think that is going to be the main source of contention in the next 20 years. With people like Sarah Palin ready to play right into that, and use it as a populist force, the right wing is already gaining serious ammo. We need real education reform in this country, we need to be raising smarter children and we need more people going to college, and we need to get on that NOW. This is my biggest problem with Obama. I think education reform, from top to bottom would have been a much better item to pursue than healthcare. We are attempting to teach children in the information age, kids who have grown up on video games, facebook and ipods, with methods that were developed over 50 years ago. The standard classroom needs to be transformed and we need to adapt the ways kids can learn things to better fit the 21st century. |
|
|
| ziptnf |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
We need real education reform in this country, we need to be raising smarter children and we need more people going to college, and we need to get on that NOW. This is my biggest problem with Obama. I think education reform, from top to bottom would have been a much better item to pursue than healthcare. |
I'm definitely on your team, but I'm not sure if I could say that education reform should have been on the top of Obama's list going into his presidency. There are many things to fix, including the fact that our nation is educationally retarded compared to many other first world countries. However, those first world countries we are competing against also have top-notch universal health care for their citizens. While our country is spiraling in debt and several millions can't get health insurance, we are getting dumber and dumber. It's like, which horrifyingly ridiculous issue should we fix first? Gotta have healthy kids before you can teach them anything. |
|
|
| enydo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
The divide between the educated and poorly educated in this country is becoming extremely large and I think that is going to be the main source of contention in the next 20 years. With people like Sarah Palin ready to play right into that, and use it as a populist force, the right wing is already gaining serious ammo. We need real education reform in this country, we need to be raising smarter children and we need more people going to college, and we need to get on that NOW. This is my biggest problem with Obama. I think education reform, from top to bottom would have been a much better item to pursue than healthcare. We are attempting to teach children in the information age, kids who have grown up on video games, facebook and ipods, with methods that were developed over 50 years ago. The standard classroom needs to be transformed and we need to adapt the ways kids can learn things to better fit the 21st century. |
Also the fact that people such as Glenn Beck are essentially stating that universities are "brainwashing camps" with a liberal agenda is incredibly damaging and dangerous. Sadly education and academia are just not really valued in a lot of areas of this country.
My roommate's mom follows Glenn Beck and Fox News blindly, and she refuses to have discussions with him about issues instead resorting to statements such as "you've just been brainwashed by your professors", and of that nature.
It's scary. People don't want to learn things or think about them critically. They want to be happy and comfortable at the cost of denying or ignoring anything that offends them or makes them squirm. |
|
|
| EddieZilker |
| quote: | Originally posted by enydo
My roommate's mom follows Glenn Beck and Fox News blindly, and she refuses to have discussions with him about issues instead resorting to statements such as "you've just been brainwashed by your professors", and of that nature.
It's scary. People don't want to learn things or think about them critically. They want to be happy and comfortable at the cost of denying or ignoring anything that offends them or makes them squirm. |
The scary thing is that she, herself, is exhibiting certain signs of thought reform. |
|
|
|
|
