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| WittyHandle |
| Do you have to give them your phone if they ask for it? I got pulled in once and they asked for it. I gave it to them just to be cooperative, but had a feeling that I wasn't legally obligated to. |
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| factory nightlife |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
for a dj it has NOTHING to do with drugs. every dj that travels for work will worry about the border situation if the promoter does not supply them with a work visa. a person that does not reside in a particular country is not legally allowed to work without a work visa. |
ding ding ding we have a weiner.:tongue3 |
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| WittyHandle |
| That is true of course, but I think the drug association is still in their minds and is a factor. |
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| srussell0018 |
I would have to agree with that. My car was searched on the way into Canada once and when they saw directions to the Guvernment they started asking me all kinds of questions about drugs.
"If you just tell us where the drugs are, it'll be a lot easier for you"
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| UXC |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
for a dj it has NOTHING to do with drugs. every dj that travels for work will worry about the border situation if the promoter does not supply them with a work visa. a person that does not reside in a particular country is not legally allowed to work without a work visa. |
Yea not sure if it is any more complicated than that.
IT IS ALWAYS A WORK VISA ISSUE THAT THE PROMOTER SCREWED UP!! rarely is the problem really on the immigration end of things. Promoters that plan ahead will never have problems. They can even get all this stuff pre-approved weeks or months in advance, there are no excuses on the promoter end of things.
I can at least say that in Canada the immigration office is fully aware of DJs and "live artists", they have their own rules and legal mumbojumbo for them. Same for the U.S. In Canada i'm aware of at least one dedicated position for artist visas and the like.
Just bothers me when people don't understand that most promoters can barley count the money they make lol |
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| *~LiSa-LoO~* |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
Do you have to give them your phone if they ask for it? I got pulled in once and they asked for it. I gave it to them just to be cooperative, but had a feeling that I wasn't legally obligated to. |
When they pull you in at the border, they say that the only thing you can take into the building while they search your car is your money and your identification. If you do not comply, you can turn you back. |
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| WittyHandle |
| Thanks :) Does that mean that if you don't leave your phone in the car though and bring it in in your pocket that you have to give it to them if they ask for it? And if so, do they have the right to scroll through it? Just sounds over the line to me, and is the kind of thing they will phrase their request such that it sounds compulsory but in reality is one's own choice. |
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| *~LiSa-LoO~* |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
Thanks :) Does that mean that if you don't leave your phone in the car though and bring it in in your pocket that you have to give it to them if they ask for it? And if so, do they have the right to scroll through it? Just sounds over the line to me, and is the kind of thing they will phrase their request such that it sounds compulsory but in reality is one's own choice. |
Essentially at the border crossing you have no rights. You don't have to comply if you don't want, but like I said, they can send you back to Canada. It does sound over the line, but I don't think I've ever seen a customer officer actually go through, let alone touch a phone. It's just their stupid rules.
Whenever I get pulled over they say "Leave everything in the car, including your cell phone, except your money and identification."
You may as well, what's the harm? |
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| Scoops |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
Thanks :) Does that mean that if you don't leave your phone in the car though and bring it in in your pocket that you have to give it to them if they ask for it? And if so, do they have the right to scroll through it? Just sounds over the line to me, and is the kind of thing they will phrase their request such that it sounds compulsory but in reality is one's own choice. |
their country...their rules |
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| thesauce23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
I would have to agree with that. My car was searched on the way into Canada once and when they saw directions to the Guvernment they started asking me all kinds of questions about drugs.
"If you just tell us where the drugs are, it'll be a lot easier for you"
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you should have said "at guvernment":D |
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| thesauce23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by WittyHandle
Thanks :) Does that mean that if you don't leave your phone in the car though and bring it in in your pocket that you have to give it to them if they ask for it? And if so, do they have the right to scroll through it? Just sounds over the line to me , and is the kind of thing they will phrase their request such that it sounds compulsory but in reality is one's own choice. |
two words: Freedom Act |
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| WittyHandle |
Oh, I should have said... I'm American. This incident was while entering Canada. I did comply, and never cross the with anything to hide. Just wondering what the technicalities were. I appreciate the info though.
I have friends who cross the border at 1 am and when asked where they're going, tell the border guards they're headed to Stereo. Apparently it works for them, but I'd never attempt it. I lie my ass off. |
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