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Should Lira wear sneakers to weddings? (pg. 4)
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shaw
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Originally posted by Miss Pie
Nobody over the age of 8 should wear sneakers with any kind of formal wear.
EgosXII
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Originally posted by yukii
The fact I noticed he doesn't .. what? makes me shallow? I don't think I understand what you were trying to say.


aren't you very lovely for wishing that he was very different, but still accepting him?

settling is not at all shallow, you are right


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Originally posted by Lira
While you debated, I decided to state the obvious: Haters gonna hate and conversers gonna converse...



I messed up somewhere in the middle when I was trying to rap but cut me some slack, I'm knackered, I had to take care not to wake up the neighbours and I don't have that much time in my hands :D


haha awesome
Meat187
Of course not. I bet he just wants to feel like a badass rebel when doing so.

While we're at it, let's also make fun of Lira for liking this painting:


Absolutely hideous. To quote myself:
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Originally posted by Meat187
[...] this painting is worse than listening to Armin. It's the art-equivalent of country music. With Hip-Hop vocals. Produced by Scooter. And released on a Thunderdome CD. :wtf:
Moral Hazard
My $0.02... appropriate dress is akin to proper manners in that it shows respect for those around you. If you show up at a job interview with me and you aren't wearing appropriate formal business attire then you aren't getting the job. If you show up at my wedding and you're wearing sneakers; I'm going to be insulted. What you're telling people is that you deem your comfort for a couple of hours as more important than they are to you... if you can't suck it up and wear big boy shoes for a couple of hours that's pretty in' low.
Meat187
Can we rename this to "Let's all hate on Lira thread"? :p :D
Fledz
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
My $0.02... appropriate dress is akin to proper manners in that it shows respect for those around you. If you show up at a job interview with me and you aren't wearing appropriate formal business attire then you aren't getting the job. If you show up at my wedding and you're wearing sneakers; I'm going to be insulted. What you're telling people is that you deem your comfort for a couple of hours as more important than they are to you... if you can't suck it up and wear big boy shoes for a couple of hours that's pretty in' low.


Pretty much but let's face it, mens formal shoes ARE comfortable. We don't design our shoes like women to be hell spawn, we design them to look good, be practical and comfortable.
The comfort thing is rubbish. Also, dress shoes look loads better than sneakers anyway.

I'm also amused by how some people think we dislike Lira for some reason. Why? Because we want him to wear dress shoes? Don't be ridiculous. I love the guy, but I'm still going to tell him to wear dress shoes in an instance like this.
Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by Fledz
mens formal shoes ARE comfortable.


This is very true provided you purchase decent shoes.

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I'm also amused by how some people think we dislike Lira for some reason. Why? Because we want him to wear dress shoes? Don't be ridiculous. I love the guy, but I'm still going to tell him to wear dress shoes in an instance like this.


Yeah, if we hated on Lira we wouldn't care that he makes a douche out of himself at every formal event.
Moongoose
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
This is very true provided you purchase decent shoes.


Well if one can afford an unknown number of pairs of what i expect are moderately expensive sneakers (dont really know how much those that lira just bought cost since they are so far from my style i woudnt be want to caught dead wearing them :p ) Surely a nice pair of formal shoes are within budget as well.
Ania_xox
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Originally posted by Moral Hazard
My $0.02... appropriate dress is akin to proper manners in that it shows respect for those around you. If you show up at a job interview with me and you aren't wearing appropriate formal business attire then you aren't getting the job. If you show up at my wedding and you're wearing sneakers; I'm going to be insulted. What you're telling people is that you deem your comfort for a couple of hours as more important than they are to you... if you can't suck it up and wear big boy shoes for a couple of hours that's pretty in' low.



The work thing I totally understand, but you really don't have much of a point in terms of wearing them to a wedding.

Why would you personally be insulted?

It has nothing to do with comfort precisely because men's dress shoes are already comfortable. It's a style choice. So basically what you're saying is that you're insulted because he's not prescribing to the status quo in terms of fashion.
Lira
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Originally posted by Ania_xox
Why would you personally be insulted?

I don't get this bit either. It's not like the people whose weddings I did/do this care about it anyway.

Like I said before, if it's someone I don't know, or someone who I know is a control freak, then I bite the bullet and wear formal shoes... though, God, I hate them so much...

Paradox Lost
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Originally posted by Ania_xox
Why would you personally be insulted?

It has nothing to do with comfort precisely because men's dress shoes are already comfortable. It's a style choice. So basically what you're saying is that you're insulted because he's not prescribing to the status quo in terms of fashion.


Because most people expect a particular level of formality on the day of their wedding, and should they invite you to attend, it's something they would expect you to adhere to in order to honor their wishes on a day that's centered around them. Moreover, it's commonly understood that most people have this understanding, so wearing sneakers comes off as a conspicuous departure from that understanding, and as a deliberate snub, even if it's merely a comfort preference, as is the case with Lira's decision.

It's not too hard to fathom as to why most people would feel insulted in that regard, though I think we've been discussing whether or not they can do so reasonably.

But hey, this guy wore sneakers to a wedding, and look at him:

Moral Hazard
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Originally posted by Ania_xox
The work thing I totally understand, but you really don't have much of a point in terms of wearing them to a wedding.

Why would you personally be insulted?

It has nothing to do with comfort precisely because men's dress shoes are already comfortable. It's a style choice. So basically what you're saying is that you're insulted because he's not prescribing to the status quo in terms of fashion.


I would be insulted because it is a formal event thereby requiring formal attire, which is an expression of the importance placed upon the event. Choosing to express one's "style" over demonstrating a respect for the importance of the event being celebrated is a declaration that one deems whatever they are trying to express through their style (usually, hey look at how cool I am; I don't care about social convention) is more important then the event itself. Lira is telling people that expressing how unconventional he is takes greater importance than showing the people (he presumably cares about) that he appreciates and understands the importance they place on their marriage... If someone told me that their self expression were more important then respecting me on one of the most important days of my life I would be personally insulted. Essentially, Lira is poking them in the eye.
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